119 users?

[kyhunt]

Hey I know I have had alot of questions on the 119 and I did a hunting knife poll with what everbody uses. But I wanted to just hear how many hunters actually use the 119. I just got a Basspro gift card and am deciding between that rosewood 119 or the rosewood 105. That 119 keeps calling me but I have never used anything that big. But she sure is pretty.

 

[wh4f]

What do you intend to use it for??
They are both great knives! I have used both but I currently only have the 119... I hope this helps!
The best thing to do is buy one of each

 

[kyhunt]

Mainly whitetail deer.

 

[wh4f]

Hhmmm,
Definately one of each then! No more warning shots though

 

[jb4570]

Well kyhunt,

Are you going to use the knife to split the pelvic bone? If so I'd go with the 119. Also will you be using any other knife on your whitetail hunts? The 119 is a good all around camp knife and is great for some of the field dress work....but, I like a smaller blade for field dressing and skinning myself. The AG 110 in S30V is my favorite hunting tool. The 119 is my favorite all around camp duty knife. I don't have a 105 and have never even held one so....no comments about that blade from me!!!! I agree with Jim....get one of each .

jb4570

 

[kyhunt]

I always have a 110 on me (EDC) . I have th AG Stag my wife bought me for Christmas that is aching for deer. Will the 119 split pelvic bone without breaking knife? I have a estwing sportmans axe for that.

Wh4f- hope no more warning shots. May have to start using bow for longer season.

 

[wh4f]

May have to start using bow for longer season.

And a muzzleloader!!!!

I always have a 110 on me (EDC) . I have th AG Stag my wife bought me for Christmas that is aching for deer. Will the 119 split pelvic bone without breaking knife? I have a estwing sportmans axe for that.

I would stick with the axe to split the pelvic bone... OR I would buy the Buck crosslock PBS! It has a blade on one side and a saw/ guthook on the other blade! I used the saw on mine to cut through the pelvic bones of 2 deer this past year after my Alpha folder dinged up on the brisket. Knives are for cutting not chopping LOL. The 119 shouldn't break if you would use it for chopping the pelvic bone but the cutting edge may look like a saw blade when you are done...

 

[kyhunt]

I've consider muzzleloading also. The 119 is calling me.

 

[wh4f]

The 119 is calling me.

Can't go wrong with that choice
Post some pics please!!
I dont have one with rosewood handles

 

[kyhunt]

I will. I think I will order it this week and then maybe the 105 in a couple weeks and then....

 

[Hawkeye5]

KYHunt... I just have to ask.Why are you splitting the pelvic bone? You really don't have to you know. But... If I was going to I would use my hatchet.
Becouse that is very hard on knives.If you cut around the vent and ty it with some string. you can pull it through and don't have to cut the pelvic.
J.M.H.O.
jeff

 

[wh4f]

If you cut around the vent and ty it with some string.

This is why I split the pelvic

:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: LOL

 

[kyhunt]

hawkeye5 I did read where you could do that but I hadn't tried it. I geuss its just one of those things where that was what I was shown so I do it that way. Cutting aroundthe vent sounds easier, but I've never tried it so I don't know.

 

[knifeman65]

Kyhunt, just a suggestion, but if two knives are an option, you could get a Buck Woodsman model 102 (4" blade) for field dressing deer and keep the 119 in your pack or back at camp for all your larger camp chores.

 

[chickentrax]

If you cut around the vent and ty it with some string. you can pull it through and don't have to cut the pelvic.

OK, I be a city boy and don't hunt anymore...just what is this "vent" you are talking about??? Is that the end of the large intestine, where it exits the body??? :barf:

If so, I can understand why you would want to tie it off...

But never having gutted anything bigger than a rabbit (or smelt: I love smelt!), I'm curious as to how splitting the pelvic bone helps get those yucky parts out of the way...Can you explain, or even link to pics???

Thankyouverymuch!!!

 

[Pack Rat]

OK, I be a city boy and don't hunt anymore...just what is this "vent" you are talking about??? Is that the end of the large intestine, where it exits the body??? :barf:

If so, I can understand why you would want to tie it off...

But never having gutted anything bigger than a rabbit (or smelt: I love smelt!), I'm curious as to how splitting the pelvic bone helps get those yucky parts out of the way...Can you explain, or even link to pics???

Thankyouverymuch!!!

I'll give a shot at this Trax. Yes, you are correct on the intestine. But it isn't just the intestine.
Splitting the pelvic is ok as long as you don't mess up and cut into the bladder. So you have two things you are trying to clean out.

When you split the pelvic bone, you can push down on both hindquarters at the same and open the cavity to facilitate trimming all around the facia and doing away with remaning intestines.

Now,,,like Jeff was eluding to, if you learn how to do it, you don't have to go to the trouble of splitting that pelvic bone. Which more times than not , least for me, created worse problems.

Since your hands are already in there, you can reach down and around the intestine and milk any "pellets" either on out the "vent" or back up far enough that you can cut it off and finish rolling the intestines out, at the same time watching out for the bladder and carefully trimming it out as well.

One thing I do is to go ahead and bone the hind quarter meat back away from the pelvic area some or a lot, since it has to be done anyway, in the event of spillage. A roll of paper towles helps keep things clean also.

It's all in keeping the meat as clean as you can. It's a whole nuther story if one has been gut shot.
You just get it all out best you can and head to a waterhose if you can. .

Now,,,I do all of this with a 110. Anything larger, for me, the blade would be too wide to get in there. And, sometimes I may even use an old Western muskrat that has the twin turkish blades to do the trimming.

Just one of those things you have to do a few times to figure it all out.


What the heck is a smelt? Sounds fishy to me....lol

 

[chickentrax]

Since your hands are already in there, you can reach down and around the intestine and milk any "pellets" either on out the "vent" or back up far enough that you can cut it off and finish rolling the intestines out, at the same time watching out for the bladder and carefully trimming it out as well.

I just know Dr DarrylS is going to jump in here...when he's done laughing...

What the heck is a smelt? Sounds fishy to me....lol

No smelt in Texas???

Yeah, they're delicious little fishies that travel in packs...or whatever real fishermen call them...you scoop them up with a net, hundreds if possible...gut & behead them, fry them with the backbone/tail intact, then open them up and strip the backbone out after frying/while eating...yummers!!!...

The smelt only "run" once a year, so if you hear that "the smelt are running!", grab your net & bucket and head for the river/stream...

 

[Pack Rat]

I just know Dr DarrylS is going to jump in here...when he's done laughing...

No smelt in Texas???

Yeah, they're delicious little fishies that travel in packs...or whatever real fishermen call them...you scoop them up with a net, hundreds if possible...gut & behead them, fry them with the backbone/tail intact, then open them up and strip the backbone out after frying/while eating...yummers!!!...
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yeah,,,Dr.D could have explained that much better..

It really sounds like you are eating our bait. lol....

 

[straitshot]

The 105 is Buck's classic hunting sheath knife. There's a reason it's been around for 40 years. To directly answer your question, the 119 may be just too big for your purposes but will work OK. I find when I'm hunting the knife most appreciated is the one that doesn't get in the way until it's needed. The 105 will do everything you need, is probably bigger than needed for most dressing and butchering chores, yet has a lot of blade to use so the edge will last through the whole process if used correctly. The 119 may be your best choice only if you will be disappointed that you didn't get it. You will not, however, be sorry you have a 105. Classics are like that, always a pleasure to have and use. Good hunting. Regards,ss.

PS- If you choose the 119, work toward a pocket folder for the smaller chores. You will use it the most of the two and will have the right tool for most everything. You will even have it when the 119 or 105 is left behind. Look at the 301 because you can't do much better at any price.

 

[DarrylS]

I just know Dr DarrylS is going to jump in here...when he's done laughing...

yeah,,,Dr.D could have explained that much better..

It really sounds like you are eating our bait. lol....

...LMBO...Describing the cleaning and extraction of the "spent fuel ejector" on four legged critters is always a joy to see...especially when done on something larger than a rabbit... ..."City folk" don't get to see the process too often and when they hear what's done to their venison or beef before they eat it they sometimes get the "queezzies"...:barf: :barf: ...LOL...
Take my word for it though...the four legged "patients" with their "spent fuel" all formed in nice tight pellets, are a heck of a lot easier to contend with than their 2 legged "cousins" who almost invariably tend to expell the "spent fuel" in a much more liquid-like form...and usually with a bit of "EXPLOSIVE" propulsion as well... :barf: ...The bladder though will always be something that needs lots of care to avoid rupturing...something I don't have to contend with on the 2 legged "cousins" ...( thank the stars )...The size of the 110 blade always served me well for the process on Wisconsin whitetail...I was never able to get used to the gut-hooked marvels that some of my huntin' buds were so proud of back then...That 110 has always been a work horse for almost anything placed in front of it...:thumbup:

P.S...I love smelt myself...