13 year old becomes father

greenwoods said:
I asked MY thirteen year old daughter if she wanted to have children at her age. She said no. She said she doesn't feel that she has the skills and experience to raise a kid yet. She does want another puppy though. I'll suppose her Mother and I gave her enough input and information that she is able to come to this decision, on her own:thumbup:

It would take a very special kind of person to decide for me, whether I raised my hand or kept it lowered in a vote of ANY kind. :)

For only myself, I work very hard to think about what and how I say something, before it crosses my teeth.

:D
Mark
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Terribly sorry about the mix up Mark. From your comments I figured you for a Dannyin Japan supporter.
glad to have you on our side and very glad you have a smart little girl.

Keep up the good work
 
titus010782 said:
Terribly sorry about the mix up Mark. From your comments I figured you for a Dannyin Japan supporter.
glad to have you on our side and very glad you have a smart little girl.

Keep up the good work
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We can only figure each other in the medium within which we choose to communicate:)
If you read the aware and intelligent words Danny has written you may indeed find an enlightenment that alludes you if understanding is clouded by emotion.;)
So, I suppose, if I would have to be labeled, I would indeed be a Danny supporter:thumbup:

We all learn from one another, or we don't learn anything at all.:)

:D
Mark
 
Oh I was just thinking out loud and the cantina is where I often do it. Personally, I am 38 and still probably too young to be a decent father.
I will try again, though.
I guess, as an anthropologist, I have seen life from a vastly different perspective. To me, living a successful life means getting enough calories to live one more day. That's biological success. I know we have a higher standard, but at the same time, we ought not to think we are entitled to so much more. I mean, if you could ask Mother Teresa what her hopes for her orphans were, I doubt she would have rattled on about "getting them into the right prep school" or "making sure they married well."

Please try to understand, I'm not saying we should all just survive. I'm saying we do all share a basic need and that need is FAR simpler than most people can imagine: Enough calories to live one more day and somewhere warm to sleep.
 
It's true that success could be so simply defined, and in American society we're conditioned to want so much more than we need. But isn't there an instinct for a parent to want for their kid to have more then he or she had? Obviously it gets relative, because what a woman wants for her kid in sub-Saharan Africa differs entirely from what a Rockefeller or Kennedy wants for their kid.
But I don't think survival alone is a reason to procreate in all situations. I add the caveat that sometimes it's necessary, for example a family on the American frontier. In such a case, more kids mean more help to take care of the homestead and protect it. And in some places and cases it may still be necessary. But in any first world nation it falls somewhere between unnecessary and foolhardy, because a 14 year old isn't supported in his or her efforts by society. But just the same, very few 14 year olds would be able to compete with older, more developed people when it comes to performance in skilled or hard physical labor. Nor would a 14 year old be as efficient as a college educated adult in a job demanding academic skills.
I suppose my ultimate attempt is to say that in a first world nation, society almost demands that a parent want more for his or her kid than survival.
Actually, to think of it like that, you have a reasonable point about the need for society to revise its standards. While I still disagree about the ideal child bearing age, it really goes to show how much our society forces us to pursue unnecessary things.
 
MagenDavid said:
It's true that success could be so simply defined, and in American society we're conditioned to want so much more than we need. But isn't there an instinct for a parent to want for their kid to have more then he or she had? Obviously it gets relative, because what a woman wants for her kid in sub-Saharan Africa differs entirely from what a Rockefeller or Kennedy wants for their kid.
But I don't think survival alone is a reason to procreate in all situations. I add the caveat that sometimes it's necessary, for example a family on the American frontier. In such a case, more kids mean more help to take care of the homestead and protect it. And in some places and cases it may still be necessary. But in any first world nation it falls somewhere between unnecessary and foolhardy, because a 14 year old isn't supported in his or her efforts by society. But just the same, very few 14 year olds would be able to compete with older, more developed people when it comes to performance in skilled or hard physical labor. Nor would a 14 year old be as efficient as a college educated adult in a job demanding academic skills.
I suppose my ultimate attempt is to say that in a first world nation, society almost demands that a parent want more for his or her kid than survival.
Actually, to think of it like that, you have a reasonable point about the need for society to revise its standards. While I still disagree about the ideal child bearing age, it really goes to show how much our society forces us to pursue unnecessary things.
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Isn't this guy still in his teens? If not, then I apologize. If so, then I'm impressed. That's unusual depth of thought for a teenager.
 
Carolina River Rat said:
Isn't this guy still in his teens? If not, then I apologize. If so, then I'm impressed. That's unusual depth of thought for a teenager.
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Rat, some kids are REALLY thoughtful these days. Gives me some hope for the future.
Jesus, at 12 years of age, was suprising his teachers at the synagogues. he also showed insight well beyond what was expected for one of his age.

It gives the rest of us "adults" less excuse to do stupid things and be thoughless.
Thoughtless by letting a 13 year old have children. I have been living in the UK for just over 2 years now. It is decadent and everyone has the mentality of zero accountability ie. they are just not interested nor do they want to get involved.
 
I'm on the back nine side of 23. For the record, though, I did have a reputation for wisdom and insight in my teens.
Once in a while it pops back out of the smartasseries and sarcasm.
 
MagenDavid said:
I'm on the back nine side of 23. For the record, though, I did have a reputation for wisdom and insight in my teens.
Once in a while it pops back out of the smartasseries and sarcasm.
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being a smartass is not a bad thing at all. It keeps you ahead of the pack and thinking on your feet.
My father disagrees with me, often physically..

being a smartass is often hardwork, especially when being outnumbered by other smartasses and the focus of their verbal abuse. Humility is learned at these times
 
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