154-CM and CPM154

Thanks so much to everyone for all of the history and information!

I have several production knives in ATS34 (Kershaw High Tech series), and edc'ed a G10 Wild Wild Turkey pretty much exclusively for three or four years, and it served me well.

I have several knives in S30V, and I find it to be quite acceptable, but not fantastic. I do find S35VN to be a great improvement over it.

I have been very much enjoying my ZT0562CF in CTS-204P, my ZT0770CF in Elmax, my ZT0600 in B75P, and others in my edc rotation in M390, 14C28N, S60V, CPM154, and many others.

What a wonderful hobby this is!
 
The Mastiff said:
We've been through this before Gaston. The article is not as described and you have no reason to keep posting incorrect info here. I even linked to to the thread here at BF at the time the article was printedhttp://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/769910-Oct-2010-Knives-Illustrated-CATRA-results-for-six-Crucible-steels It was 440V/S60V powder steel that "crushed" and only in abrasive wear testing. There was no Infi tested either. This is what, the 4th or 5th time we have gone down this road?

Aus6 and 8 are fine steels for what they are. I like them too. I recall how tough the SOG 9" Tigershark in Aus 6 was ( released after the SK5 version). If you like that steel 12C or 12C (mod) are good steels too. I have to disagree about there having been no advancements in the last 30 years though. It's night and day. The amount of different choices now is amazing and the performance is there for anyone who wants it.

Here's some results from the time you are talking about though this isn't an article in a magazine obviously.http://sharpeningmadeeasy.com/edge.htm Wayne Goddard did some of the first tests I recall hearing about. Vascowear is the parent of Cruwear and the same composition. CPM T440V is 440V/S60V.

Please though, by all means find the results you keep referring to. We'd love to see them. :)

Joe
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That is not the test in question, and we've been through this before, so you definitely seem to only retain what you wish to retain...

The test I am talking about was 1- pre-2000, 2- was not a CATRA test at all, 3- had manila rope cutting and various other materials cut by hand, not machine as in CATRA, 4- all the blades in different steels were made by a single custom maker at the request of the magazine...

5- One of the multiple reasons I know the test was pre-2000 is that I know it predated ANY knives being commercially available in ANY CPM process steel...

Why do you keep trying to bring in a recent CATRA test printed in a 2010 Knives Illustrated issue?

Re-read the above two paragraphs, consider the 5 points carefully, and please realize how absurd is what you are trying to pass off as the "test"... Not that it will stop you to keep going I'm sure...

Anyway you will eventually see the actual test, as I have taken steps to resolve this, so hopefully that will end your unproductive nonsense...

Gaston
 
CPM process is several decades old. Infact Crucible has used it since the 1970s. I am not sure when the first knives were ground out of these steels though.

I know Jay Fischer is a big proponent of 440c and stands by it. I am not sure about it but in my experiences well HTed 400c is actually a great and way underrated steel. I don't think that in my experience 440c outlasts steels like s60v. Aus-8 in my experience takes a great edge easily and quickly. It seems to have good edge stability if not wear resistant. I mean like it doesn't chip and strops up a dream.
 
That is not the test in question, and we've been through this before, so you definitely seem to only retain what you wish to retain...

The test I am talking about was 1- pre-2000, 2- was not a CATRA test at all, 3- had manila rope cutting and various other materials cut by hand, not machine as in CATRA, 4- all the blades in different steels were made by a single custom maker at the request of the magazine...

5- One of the multiple reasons I know the test was pre-2000 is that I know it predated ANY knives being commercially available in ANY CPM process steel...

Why do you keep trying to bring in a recent CATRA test printed in a 2010 Knives Illustrated issue?

Re-read the above two paragraphs, consider the 5 points carefully, and please realize how absurd is what you are trying to pass off as the "test"... Not that it will stop you to keep going I'm sure...

Anyway you will eventually see the actual test, as I have taken steps to resolve this, so hopefully that will end your unproductive nonsense.
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I'm not the type that has problems admitting to being wrong so I'm looking forward to you finally getting the evidence. Of course I'll believe it when I see it and not until then. I'm still going to question the test results if they are as you have stated because they contradict not only my experiences but other tests conducted as you have seen. Until you prove the existence of this article you claim how about not posting incorrect and confusing information. There are plenty of inexperienced types researching here and we don't want them getting steered in wrong directions. We have asked you for proof for about 3 years now and you still can give nothing but your memories of a test no one else can recall. A test that fits no other results seen so far either.

Joe
 
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