154cm vs ats- 34

RAZORBLADES said:
Yessir!Your people came from where i live originally,someof them anyways.We have the same humidity here,its unreal at times,knives go through a lot of different c,limate changes here,most of them wearther fine,the odd steel gets eaten up with rust,i wish i could understand why some stainless steels rust more than carbon steel knives in own???
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Have I found a fellow Coonass on this forum?
 
RAZORBLADES said:
Yessir!Your people came from where i live originally,someof them anyways.We have the same humidity here,its unreal at times,knives go through a lot of different c,limate changes here,most of them wearther fine,the odd steel gets eaten up with rust,i wish i could understand why some stainless steels rust more than carbon steel knives in own???
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Would you be a fellow coonass? ;)
 
Not me ,but my wifes' side is .Her parents met some good friends on vacation from Louisiana and visited with them last summer,they rented a RV and toured all over the place .LOL..
 
I reckon I'm just pety for thinking the way I do. I work hard for my money and would like for it to stay in the neighborhood. If more people thought the way I do maybe America wouldn't be in the shape it's in. Think about it this way. If your money stays in your neighborhood you have a chance to make it back. Once it leaves you almost never see it again. Welp I won't be buying this knife. Looking for another one though........
 
I think we actually need MORE trade with foreign countries, so I have no qualms about buying a knife with steel made in Japan.

Isolationism hurts EVERYBODY.

We do, however, need to look at making our trade with foreign countries more fair (tax imports to equal what they tax our imports to them) and we need to look at eliminating tax breaks for people who move their factories to other countries and thus take jobs away from Americans.

It does seem like your intent with the initial post was to discuss this aspect of the knife business, and that's probably better suited to a political forum.
 
No not really. I truly wanted to know if there was a reasonable difference between the steels that lead Buck to use it. My last post stemmed from aggravation that there is no apparent reason.
I don't mean to be political. I'll leave it right there.
 
As far as I can tell, from my experience, ATS-34 doesn't rust any more readily than other comparable steels. HOWEVER:
Blade finish matters a TON. Aaaaand, in the era that ATS-34 was most popular, so was bead-blasted finish, which causes the surface of the steel to rust quickly. This is because bead blasting creates tiny craters in the surface of the steel, where tiny bits of moisture accumulate. A satin finish, on the other hand, is much smoother (on a microscopic level), and so even a "non-stainless" steel in a satin finish will hold up better against rust than a "stainless" that has been bead-blasted.
Just my observations... YMMV (if the laws of physics don't apply in your house... ;) )
 
That seems to agree with what Razorblades was saying.

Good reason to stay away from bead blasted knives.
 
The more i think about it,I also remember a mentor in 420hc doing pretty much the same thing,which is why i don't like mentors to this day,that bead blast finish looks better than it functions i'll bet.
 
puukkoman said:
As far as I can tell, from my experience, ATS-34 doesn't rust any more readily than other comparable steels. HOWEVER:
Blade finish matters a TON. Aaaaand, in the era that ATS-34 was most popular, so was bead-blasted finish, which causes the surface of the steel to rust quickly. This is because bead blasting creates tiny craters in the surface of the steel, where tiny bits of moisture accumulate. A satin finish, on the other hand, is much smoother (on a microscopic level), and so even a "non-stainless" steel in a satin finish will hold up better against rust than a "stainless" that has been bead-blasted.
Just my observations... YMMV (if the laws of physics don't apply in your house... ;) )
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I agree with most of this, as I've had a blade of ATS-34 w/ a bead blast finish develop rust spots over night from H2O. However, I've not found anything to match 01 (with any finish) for developing black stains quickly and later rusting. Also, the after taste many non-stainless leave on food is enough to turn me away from its use. DM
 
Not a fan of bead-blast coating. I actually think that bead-blasted blades look rather dull (pardon the pun) and uninteresting. And they're rust magnets. I'll take a satin finish over bead blast anyday. And if the point is supposed to be reducing glare and reflection from the blade, then I'll take blade coating over bead-blast. I think blades with well-worn black coating have an interesting character to them anyway.
 
GundaManiac said:
I think blades with well-worn black coating have an interesting character to them anyway.
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True enough. I rather like polished blades. Not that they stay polished cause I use/abuse my blades. I don't see a problem w/ coated blades.
I have several pieces of 420hc all of them polished of course. I have had any rusting problems with them.
I think so too that non stainless leaves a funky taste in food. Non stainless ladles and spoons does too.
 
As far as keeping the blades from rusting goes. I don't like silicone spray on my blades. I use 3 N 1 oil, soybean oil or olive oil. I dunno why but soybean oil removes the little rust specs off of the blade and cleans it real nice. Put some bean oil on ur blade before going fishing and see if you notice a difference how easy it is to keep clean. If your like me and cut bait you know what kind of a pain it is to clean that scary sharp knife with fish guts and blood on the blade. A simple wipe w/ a rag and its clean.
 
exiled13 said:
As far as keeping the blades from rusting goes. I don't like silicone spray on my blades. I use 3 N 1 oil, soybean oil or olive oil. I dunno why but soybean oil removes the little rust specs off of the blade and cleans it real nice. Put some bean oil on ur blade before going fishing and see if you notice a difference how easy it is to keep clean. If your like me and cut bait you know what kind of a pain it is to clean that scary sharp knife with fish guts and blood on the blade. A simple wipe w/ a rag and its clean.
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A lot of guys in the slipjoint forum use mineral oil on their blades especially if they use them for cutting/peeling food items. I tend to use 3 in 1 oil or Corrision X.
 
Yep, mineral oil is a real winner! I use it on my non-stainless blades from time to time. I rarely even do that, though, and I work on the water. Even my non-stainless blades don't really rust... I let a patina develop with time, and that protects them. As far as my stainless blades go, I have on occasion noticed tiny red specks, like inside a Spyderco hole, or on a bead-blasted Benchmade. Never had rust on a satin-finish Buck, though.
 
Badhammer said:
A lot of guys in the slipjoint forum use mineral oil on their blades especially if they use them for cutting/peeling food items. I tend to use 3 in 1 oil or Corrision X.
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I have'nt used mineral oilbefore. I'll keep it in mind. How do you like corrison X? Ivebeen meaning to grab some and try it out.
 
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