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I'm sorry. I literally laughed out loud at his photo. I know (or at least imagine) the 16 is a beast of a knife, but it looks like a toy. I thought it was a toy before I even read the post.
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So K18 has a much fatter blade. Slightly longer - maybe 2 inches? I'm guessing a lot heavier / more massive. Definitely a more substantial handle . . . two hands . . . if it's as heavy as it looks, you might need two hands. But maybe not. Doesn't look fast in the hand, but appearances can be deceiving. Would love to try chopping a bunch of crap with both and see how that works.
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So K18 has a much fatter blade. Slightly longer - maybe 2 inches? I'm guessing a lot heavier / more massive. Definitely a more substantial handle . . . two hands . . . if it's as heavy as it looks, you might need two hands. But maybe not. Doesn't look fast in the hand, but appearances can be deceiving. Would love to try chopping a bunch of crap with both and see how that works.
I'm pretty skeptical as well, you had better send one my way!That Busse F16 is slightly thicker stock but the grind is much shorter. I can estimate the primary grind angle from that picture and (since we win almost every cutting competition we enter, we are a subject matter expert when it comes to cutting geometry) I can tell you it would not win many cut races. The K18 looks pretty big but it is the result of very specific geometry designed to win KOD. While it does weigh more than the smaller knife, it isn't at all unwieldly. It is an engineered piece and something you have to hold in your hand and cut with to appreciate. I would be glad to lend you mine for some test cuts if you'd return it promptly.
As a former "hog" in Busse world... The F 16 is very clunky and unwieldy. Balance point is far front of gaurd. Handle is significantly under designed for the blade weight and length. In my humble opinion.... Same with the FBM we still own. From what i hear, the K 18 will be much more nimble and balanced and feel lighter then it looks.
No doubt. Everything Nathan makes cuts - and cuts well! I'm also quite sure Dr. Dan can wield that thing a LOT better than the everage bear!And given the video of Dr. Dan Keffeler going through a 2” x 4” in one swing, we know it cuts well. Mike
Thanks for the generous offer, and I may take you up on that if I can find the time to do it as a video comparison that I can post up on YouTune and share with folks here (with your permission, of course). I have no doubt about what you say. All I have used my K-16 for is chopping down some relatively minor branches in my yard and it has worked fine for that and the edge is still sharp. I do not find the balance off, as someone mentioned - it is about an inch and a half forward of the handle, which feels about right to me for a 16 inch chopper. But it is also definitely not something I would call light and quick - like my wakizashi is. But for the (maybe somewhat limited) tasks that I have put it to, it has performed well. It is the so-called "nuclear option" but I don't think that changes the grind or the rest of it from a performance standpoint. I'm quite sure that the K18 chops much better - hard to have a good feeling for the difference, though, without an actual comparison.That Busse F16 is slightly thicker stock but the grind is much shorter. I can estimate the primary grind angle from that picture and (since we win almost every cutting competition we enter, we are a subject matter expert when it comes to cutting geometry) I can tell you it would not win many cut races. The K18 looks pretty big but it is the result of very specific geometry designed to win KOD. While it does weigh more than the smaller knife, it isn't at all unwieldly. It is an engineered piece and something you have to hold in your hand and cut with to appreciate. I would be glad to lend you mine for some test cuts if you'd return it promptly.
Bear in mind, there's a CPK Notta-Katana in the pipeline somewhere.I have not held a f16, but was tempted to pick one up. I will admit my reason for passing on that offering was the appearance of poor balance. I recently went into a bit of a rant on moving along my Busse knives in favor of my CPKs, so I wont get into all that. What I do want to share is the one Busse kin I decided I couldn't let go of!
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That puppy is a stripped Swamp Rat Waki. Blade length of 17 inches and over all just under 28 inches n. The balance is superb. When you hold it in your hand, you feel like the thing would twirl around like a baton (not that I know much about such things). While it may not have the same blade profile as k18, it may be a close comparison from a blade length/balance standpoint. I hope to one day find out!
Nice. I have a rucki and AK 47. Always wanted a waki. I could not sell mine either so far!I have not held a f16, but was tempted to pick one up. I will admit my reason for passing on that offering was the appearance of poor balance. I recently went into a bit of a rant on moving along my Busse knives in favor of my CPKs, so I wont get into all that. What I do want to share is the one Busse kin I decided I couldn't let go of!
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That puppy is a stripped Swamp Rat Waki. Blade length of 17 inches and over all just under 28 inches n. The balance is superb. When you hold it in your hand, you feel like the thing would twirl around like a baton (not that I know much about such things). While it may not have the same blade profile as k18, it may be a close comparison from a blade length/balance standpoint. I hope to one day find out!