184 Buckmaster Non Owners Club!

I have neither a 184 nor the bayonet. I thought they looked cool when they were in production, but back then I couldn't afford either. Now, they would just sit and gather dust as neither are exceptionally useful as tools to me.

But they look cool and they bring back good memories of looking at pictures and hoping for "some day."
 
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zanussi01 Nice Collection. Do you know anything about the Australian Broad Arrow? I believe there were only a 100 or so left over and coated with black oxide,
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The Broadarrow mark is on all the Buck made Aussie issue M9 Bayonets,including naturally, the over runs.
These are the only Aussie M9's made with this mark,all the replacement bayonets acquired by the DoD since then are COTS items.
(COTS is Commercial Off The Shelf,as such they do not have any Broadarrow marks or any other distinguishing feature to tell then apart from the same bayonet issued to the US Army.)

In the M9 bayonet book,I think it states the number but cant remember it off hand.
I'm not sure on the exact figure,both 100 and 900 have been mentioned in my research.
Documentation is somewhat hard to find.
I don't think even Buck would know as apparently they didn't keep count.
Either number makes them pretty scarce,in all my years of collecting,i've only seen four.
I've seen about a dozen or so issued ones painted or blacked out to look like the oxide versions,but these are easy to spot if you know what to look for.
This one is the real deal and 100% correct.:thumbsup:
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Yep, somewhere around that figure or maybe as high as 900, either way super scarce.
This now makes five I've seen, lol.
Do you have the scabbard for this one?

Just a note on the scabbards, not all had the Broadarrow mark above the cutter plate as mine does.
As these bayonets were over runs, they had more correctly marked bayonets than scabbards.
So you will get these bayonets without the correct Broadarrow marked scabbard, eg a scabbard as used on the Commercial bayonets.
 
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Just to get back to the OP's original question.
I wasn't a member of this club, as I had most of the variations of the BM's and M9's.
I don't have any left now, so now I am a member of the 'non owners club', much better for it and proud of it!

After my great uncle passed, I inherited just over five and a half thousand knives, swords and bayonets
spanning from the Boer war to the War on Terror.
Mostly military stuff from Australia, New Zealand, USA, Canada, England, Germany, France, Japan etc.
From military contact items to commercially produced items on the civilian market, he had it!
Union, Camillus, Wilkinson, Buck, Phrobis, MA, Greg Steel, Pal, Poole, SOG, Cold Steel, Gerber, Marbles, Ontario etc etc. Sheesh!

One day I just said 'enough is enough' as I did not feel fulfilled with having them.
(It was a constant job just to look after them, like painting the Sydney Harbour Bridge,
once you get to the end you go back to the other and start again.)

So I started to sell them off, the BM's were first to go as I didn't like them as a usable knife.
All the bad things about them was rolled over into the M9, again a poor knife and bayonet.
Collectable-wise though, I did make some money from them, but found greater joy in helping others acquire what they wanted.

I feel much greater fulfilment in helping, or trying to help others with what knowledge I can about what they have or would like.
I, by no means know everything, and my memory just isn't what it used to be, sometimes I'm wrong, I'm only human.
But as my great uncle used to say, "Collecting isn't about what you have, but what you can give back."
So this is what I try to do and have absolutely no regrets.
 
zanussi01 said:
Just to get back to the OP's original question.
I wasn't a member of this club, as I had most of the variations of the BM's and M9's.
I don't have any left now, so now I am a member of the 'non owners club', much better for it and proud of it!

After my great uncle passed, I inherited just over five and a half thousand knives, swords and bayonets
spanning from the Boer war to the War on Terror.
Mostly military stuff from Australia, New Zealand, USA, Canada, England, Germany, France, Japan etc.
From military contact items to commercially produced items on the civilian market, he had it!
Union, Camillus, Wilkinson, Buck, Phrobis, MA, Greg Steel, Pal, Poole, SOG, Cold Steel, Gerber, Marbles, Ontario etc etc. Sheesh!

One day I just said 'enough is enough' as I did not feel fulfilled with having them.
(It was a constant job just to look after them, like painting the Sydney Harbour Bridge,
once you get to the end you go back to the other and start again.)

So I started to sell them off, the BM's were first to go as I didn't like them as a usable knife.
All the bad things about them was rolled over into the M9, again a poor knife and bayonet.
Collectable-wise though, I did make some money from them, but found greater joy in helping others acquire what they wanted.

I feel much greater fulfilment in helping, or trying to help others with what knowledge I can about what they have or would like.
I, by no means know everything, and my memory just isn't what it used to be, sometimes I'm wrong, I'm only human.
But as my great uncle used to say, "Collecting isn't about what you have, but what you can give back."
So this is what I try to do and have absolutely no regrets.
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Over 5000? That's amazing! What did he do for a living and how did he collect so many? Also good on you for passing them on when they no longer interested you!
 
Just over 5500, huge collection and a huge headache!
He started collecting while serving in the Army in ww2.
After the war, lots of stuff was being sold off for next to nothing, so easy and cheap to acquire.
A lot of items were bought or acquired through trading with people he knew from the war.
He travelled a lot after leaving the Army in the mid 70's, always came home with items from far off places.
I appreciated the history behind the pieces he collected, but it was better off with someone that could appreciated more than I could.
 
Just caught up with this thread. 5500 wow! I had over 30 M1 Garands and maybe 50 other rifles that wood and metal needed to be cleaned and oiled once or twice a year. I to downsize and feel most i sold went to new and true collectors that were happy to have at least one.
I’m in the process of boxing and cataloging all the knives and guns i have so after i’m gone my sons and wife will have some sense of what to do with it all.
I really don’t think they have any idea the world they are about to enter after i leave this one.
Just don’t want my nice Frontiersman to be sold at a garage sale for $5 etc,etc….. 😮 😫
 
Concerning the 184 BM, what steel did Buck use?
440? 425M?
I checked this thread and found that list (post #35) but only mention of steel type is stamped or forged.
 
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Still in the club. 😫
Does anyone think Buck could reissue the 184 at <$500 in a limited run and make not only enough diehard customers happy but do it with enough profit to make it worth the trouble?
I mean the 40th anniversary of the 184 is next year? I’ll start saving my pennies but at the same time won’t hold my breath.
 
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Maybe next year is when they plan to release the new/replacement knife we keep hearing rumors of.
 
I saw that green handled replacement from the 2020 shot show. I thought it was hideous jmho!
I just received that Ramster replica “184” after watching reviews on youtube. It’s definitely cool so how cool is the real thing? I can only imagine.
I know it’s not a Buck but $55 wasn’t a waste in this case.
 
David Nowlin said:
Still in the club. 😫
Does anyone think Buck could reissue the 184 at <$500 in a limited run and make not only enough diehard customers happy but do it with enough profit to make it worth the trouble?
I mean the 40th anniversary of the 184 is next year? I’ll start saving my pennies but at the same time won’t hold my breath.
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That would be a good shout, 40th anniversary 184.
 
David Nowlin said:
I saw that green handled replacement from the 2020 shot show. I thought it was hideous jmho!
I just received that Ramster replica “184” after watching reviews on youtube. It’s definitely cool so how cool is the real thing? I can only imagine.
I know it’s not a Buck but $55 wasn’t a waste in this case.
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It's a bit like slapping on 'M' stickers to regular BMW. Looks OK, but you know it's not the real deal.
Keep your eyes peeled and your money saved, you can pick up a real 184 for sub $500.
 
The knock off i got is a tad scaled down but still feels like a beast. One complaint about the 184 was how heavy it was. Not sure if Buck scaled it down on a anniversary edition if that would kill sales or help drive sales?
 
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