2 Dot 110 question...........

Trent Rock

Trent Rock

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Why are the handles diff colors/materials?
It doesn't look rehandled (the pins look "factory" to me)
Found this one at a thrift shop
(about the current price of Marlboro Lights here in California)
1st 110 in my collection since I lost mine around 9th grade!:eek::thumbup:
2 dot makes it 1975???
Where is the "Buck Dot" chart???
Give me some other terms
"4 pin" or something like that....................
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One of them is rosewood?
What is the darker one??

The two colors kinda bothered me at first
Now, I am at peace with it and think it look kinda cool :cool:

Thanks for help you Buckians
I went on a Buck buying bender
More pics to come.......
 
there was also another woods used
both i believe are ebony
which has different colors
but they will be the same wood
most times they tryed to match better but
did not always happen..
the two dots show an engineering change to prevent
turning to a gravity knife..this from after a court case were
but was asked if they made it as a gravity knife

it has a deeper clip then most and is a KeeP-er
in my book
the steel will be 440c
and it will have a thicker edge then new ones
good find!!
 
Nice one Trent. 334Dave has forgot more about the 110 than most will ever know.

Here are some extra points.
-You have a 3 pin knife due to the inlay pins. The rocker rivet does not count.
-Its macassar ebony, sometime called golden ebony due to the golden hues and stripping at times. As Dave said, they tried to match but didn't always.
-You have a 2 dot knife which is 74-79 manufacture. The large (1/8th) inlay pins indicates later production, probably 76 or after. Earlier knives had 1/16th pins and their number varied from two to four back to three.

Dave's right about the deep clip on that blade...very nice piece.
Mind telling what you gave for it?
 
Thanks for ALL the info!!:thumbup:

I was at the thrift shop and this one usually has a glass case with a few knives
Always been the same Japanese cheapo 1980's "Rambo knife" with compass and an old butcher knife someone ground down and put in a hand made sheath
I almost didn't go "check" that cabinet
Good thing I did!!
It was sitting right on top
It cost me $6.99
A pack of smokes is 7 bucks here in Cali....heheheheh

I did notice the clip is a little more deep
The blade looks unused:thumbup:
I did use some Brasso
It looks like I can see the scratches on the macro lens pics
Bad move Trent!! I try so hard not to "clean up" the brass.....hehehehe... I want it to look SHINY...LOL..bad!! bad!!!
Maybe one day I'll learn how to use the buffer wheel on my dremel

I came with the black sheath too
It looks original to me
I'm no Buck sheath expert though.....

There is misinformation on EBAY====>
"They" all say the 2 dot means 1975, last I looked a few days ago
I knew you guys would have the ACCURATE info
That is what makes this forum so great;)

Oh yeah
Doh!!!
Same wood huh??
Never thought of that
And believe me I THOUGHT about a lot of reasons why the wood was diff
Sometimes the obvious solution is right in front of you
 
Yes Trent,They did try to match them better than that.Thats the first I've seen like that.But I believe its Macassar Ebony.Great find at a great price.I usually have to give 30-40$ for one like yours.DM
 
There is another possibility on the scale color.
That lighter side looks a lot like a piece of sequa wood.
Did that thought occur to anyone else?? You know how the Bucks like to use up excess inventory:) I think its a very interesting piece.

Trent you made out like a bandit and then some.
 
Hello, I have a 2 dot 112 that has that exact same handle (issue?). I am a noob in the world of buck, so I thought the previous owner displayed it with the lighter side up.....so I thought the sunlight had faded one side:D. I am glad you guys are here, because I would have kept on believing my theory. I am with you though Trent Rock, at first all i wanted to do was stain the lighter side, but I kinda grew to appreciate it.

Take care, Mike Arnold
 
The three pin two dot was introduced in 1978 and ran through about 1980. Both inlays on this knife are Macassar Ebony. FYI.
 
Flatlander1963 said:
There ya go Decaf...110's for cig money.
I know you gotta love that.
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man after my own heart!
is what i used to start my collection
bucks instead of smokes..
healther!
the 110 had a LOT and i mean a LOT of work by
HAND which was to follow guide lines
this resulted in what i feel is a
'semi hand made knife"
there is less hand work now then then
more uniformity
i like the older looks better with their hand made personal touches:thumbup::cool:
and yes i have forgotten most of what i have learned
about buck knives esp details like years ,,
dad drooped me on the head :eek:
when i was young while toughing me up:grumpy:
and i think the crack still leaks...:confused:
 
The three pin two dot was introduced in 1978 and ran through about 1980.
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You sure about all that Richard? I'm not trying to pick a fight but that doesn't sound right to me. For that to be correct 2 and 4 pin knives would have been 74,75,76,77 manufacture. The 2 pin 2 dot is rather hard to find and the 4 pins are next to impossible. And then there is the 3 pin small head knives that would have run between...I don't know Richard, I know your a long time Buck employee but 3 pins starting in 1978 just doesn't work out for me. I'm certainly not saying its not right just that I'd like more feedback before I salted away as a repeatable fact.

It would be a great help if the forum could ponder this a bit: "what year did Buck go to the 3 pin large head method of riveting the inlay?"

I agree that the two dots may have rolled into 1980. But isn't 1980 typically considered the 3 dot year? And 4 dots began in 1981, yes?
 
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:cool:...Don't forget what happens when a knife like a 110 has been stored on it's side leaving one side exposed for years. It will indeed change colors as the "down" side will not have interacted with the air or light nearly as much as the exposed side. I have a tinned 110 from only 4 years ago that was never opened and when I did open it I saw the "down" side was much darker than the "up" side already...:)
 
Seems like I remember Richard's comments being accurate.But giving credence to Flatlanders comments would be prudent.As I'm out of town and don't have my notes.DM
 
On the DVD we bought from the 20yr seminars event,George Stenzel put the 2 dots into 1980 and 4 dots in 1981.Making the 3 dots only a portion of 1980.It could be segua wood but since those came out in 1973 it would have to be left over segua.DM
 
this one thread is such a good example of the buck debate!
now you know why i dont "remember" details
once i postulated that there was a inverted 3 line usa tang stamp knife
i got boo hooed from some .. wow the 3 line showed up..
waiting on a two line non inverted also now..

i feel that the only way to tell a real factory buck is by it's
"buckness".. (if you want to know what i mean by that- email me)
how do you know or tell- you look at a LOT of them..
and consult memory for your WAG ..

the guide lines that have been posted are jest that
GUIDE LINES!
there are/will be knives that do NOT fit in one category or the other,
because many non-standard yet non-custom knives
DID come from the factory...
many non-production knives were made to order on verbal instructions only..

from Chuck Buck at the atlanta blade show 2007...
we never thought the paper work could be so important"
"..if we found materials later and could use them, we did."
"we wasted nothing we could use... "
" ...tried lots of different things...we were always playing around ... "
 
On the DVD we bought from the 20yr seminars event,George Stenzel put the 2 dots into 1980 and 4 dots in 1981.Making the 3 dots only a portion of 1980.It could be segua wood but since those came out in 1973 it would have to be left over segua.DM
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DM,

I was just throwing the segua wood thing out there. I think its m. ebony.
I see Joe changed the fact sheet to 1980 for the 2 dots and I hear what your saying about the 2 dots rolling into 1980. I have NO problem with that...in fact it makes perfect sense. I expect blades production is a batch process and Buck would use blades out of inventory till they dropped to a inventory level that triggered a restock order. Even so, I would think that blade production and usage in knife building is a rather continuous process and the blade inventory is not significantly ahead of usage requirements.

I would expect all the year stamps changes etc to bleed into the following year.

Anyway all good info, thanks David.
 
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