2 similar knives(strider, ZT) worlds apart in price...why?

mjolnir74 said:
I've had about eight Strider's, none have needed to be sent back. I've had four Kershaw/ZT's. I had to send one back immediately. I'm sure people's experience's vary. How many Strider's have you sent back?
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Do you really want to invite all the people who had lock rock issues with Striders to start posting in here?
 
Just my experience. Not a knock on Kershaw/ZT. I've had to send back an Emerson, and GEC also. All good knives. Like I said, people's experience's vary and some people comment when they have none. I don't buy Strider's because of Mick or Duane. I just like the SnG. I enjoy using and carrying it. It's a good design. I know a lot of people had lock rock issues, and they changed the lock face because of that.
 
Scurvy092 said:
Do you really want to invite all the people who had lock rock issues with Striders to start posting in here?
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Oh dear god no, please please no!! I've heard plenty about all the lock issues people used to have, never had any issues with mine and love my strider so dont really wanna hear about all those past issues:thumbup:
 
powernoodle said:
Thats just a marketing strategy. Often when we see spendy knives, we automatically think they must be "better" because they are so expensive. Makers know this. Look at Microtech and Busse. Busse has a killer marketing apparatus.
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Busses are awesome because they are awesome. It has nothing to with marketing. What you have just written is just so utterly incorrect that it's like saying there is no water in the ocean. Busses are popular because of word of mouth from use in real world situations not any UberNinja marketing strategies.
What you wrote above maybe true or Mad Dog or Loveless knives, but not busses.
 
LesserBeing said:
Busses are awesome because they are awesome. It has nothing to with marketing. What you have just written is just so utterly incorrect that it's like saying there is no water in the ocean. Busses are popular because of word of mouth from use in real world situations not any UberNinja marketing strategies.
What you wrote above maybe true or Mad Dog or Loveless knives, but not busses.
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Why did you take his comments so negatively? Jerry knows how to make top-notch products and run a business. Having a fantastic marketing plan is bad thing? If you believe your comments to be correct, you should email Busse and let them know they are wasting their money on the magazine ads.
 
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Because what was said is that the Busse company deliberately, disproportionately and unreasonably overcharges to make people think that the knives are marked up simply because of the Busse name. When you buy a Busse, you're not buying it to brag about it like a rolex watch, you're paying for it because it's 10x the knife at 1/2 the cost.
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about the magazine ads: How often do you really see Busse ads? From what I've seen their ads are pretty limited.
 
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LesserBeing said:
Because what was said is that the Busse company deliberately, disproportionately and unreasonably overcharges to make people think that the knives are marked up simply because of the Busse name. When you buy a Busse, you're not buying it to brag about it like a rolex watch, you're paying for it because it's 10x the knife at 1/2 the cost.
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about the magazine ads: How often do you really see Busse ads? From what I've seen their ads are pretty limited.
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10x the knife compared to what knife and how much did that one cost? Busse knives are great....no denying that. I think you're reading too much into what powernoodle posted and putting words in his mouth.

How often do I see Busse ads? Every time I open the worlds #1 knife publication.
 
LesserBeing said:
Busses are awesome because they are awesome. It has nothing to with marketing. What you have just written is just so utterly incorrect that it's like saying there is no water in the ocean
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I can only reiterate what Morrow has said in that Busse ads are plastered in every knife magazine I read and many times multi-page ads. Sure Busse knives are good, but your comments lend very little to this discussion.
 
This is NOT a Busse thread...just so ya know, guys.
It was said already; ZT is part of a BIG company with much lower production costs. I DO KNOW Strider's warranty is wonderful...and I've used it. I like ZT's also; I've had a bunch of both company's products. Both are excellent; both are well worth the price.
 
In my not very informed opinion, there are two possible reasons for the price difference. The first one, which has already been mentioned, is that Strider just has higher costs because it is a smaller outfit. KAI operates on a much larger scale and can make the same knife from the same materials for less money (I know the 300 and the SNG aren't the same).

The other reason might not be directly related to cost but to marketing. Sometimes manufacturers decide to price their goods at a certain point because they target a certain audience and want their brand to be perceived in a certain way. A bladesmith friend of mine once told me that he couldn't sell a certain knife model very well at a show for 150 dollars, but that when he increased the price to 350 (following the advice of a more experienced seller), they flew off his table
 
thanks for all the input guys! even tho sometimes stuff gets of topic but what can you expect with striders haha. And thats not a cue to start with strider controversy again PLEASE:p
I know the 0300 was co-designed by ken onion and strider but does anyone know why striders name doesn't appear on the blade, only ken onions?
 
[video=youtube;nAR9tCJBqOc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAR9tCJBqOc[/video]
 
The question that I see isn't why does the strider cost more (small shop etc, sure) but why are people willing to pay double the price of the zt 0300?

Not a knock against expensive knives (xm18 currently in my pocket) but I personally don't see the value in the strider.
( I've handled one but not owned)
 
JDunn709 said:
The question that I see isn't why does the strider cost more (small shop etc, sure) but why are people willing to pay double the price of the zt 0300?

Not a knock against expensive knives (xm18 currently in my pocket) but I personally don't see the value in the strider.
( I've handled one but not owned)
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I find this post incredibly ironic. Especially when compared to a ZT product and what is in your pocket currently. Just funny is all. Not trying to get you going (very much anyway:friendly_wink:). I think it comes down to the fact that KAI or ZT puts out an outstanding product for the money, that is comparable to knives costing twice as much, due to them being huge, tested, proven, with access to some great discounts on materials, advertising, and already possessing a huge market share in the hard use folder area. Just the best bang for your buck in hard use folders like someone else had mentioned earlier.
 
joeyza said:
thanks for all the input guys! even tho sometimes stuff gets of topic but what can you expect with striders haha. And thats not a cue to start with strider controversy again PLEASE:p
I know the 0300 was co-designed by ken onion and strider but does anyone know why striders name doesn't appear on the blade, only ken onions?
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Because the only thing Strider designed on the knife was the grips. Also note that the Onion markings are regarding the Speed Safe mechanism which is accredited to Ken Onion.

This is also why Strider gets no credit for the 0350.

OP, is that a genuine Strider, or one of the higher end Chinese clones? Reason I ask is the overmarked blade, almost shiney hardware, and smaller thumb opening which are all things Mick has advised to watch out for. It's been awhile so I can't say for sure, but there are a couple videos on how to tell much more precisely.
 
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