2007 Blade Show Cutting Competition- Why no Busse?

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I've only kept track of the last couple of years of cutting competitions so I may be wrong here. How come Busse knives never enter these contests? Chopping wood, followed by slashing and slicing tests, followed by another wood chopping test, seems like a very real world example of how well a blade performs, [and might be used in a survival situation]. Wouldn't these tests show that INFI steel works as good or better than anything else out there? Nobody in his right mind would use his blade to chop through a cinder block like the Busse demo anyway, so why not show that INFI is at least good at the Blade show tests? [Or at least the top ten}

Yes, I saw that the competitors all used M4 steel, which is not available to the general public in production knives. INFI isn't available in other knives either, so a comparison test using INFI and M4 would be apples to apples.

Entering this contest and winning it year after year would certainly put an end to any arguements about the "Ultimate" knife steel. {non-stainless}

http://www.bladesports.org/past_events.htm
 
Well since no one answered as of me typing this and its been viewed over 70 times, I have to asked also, good question! I wanted to do a test in video against that steel vs some others ( since i do professionally test broad heads for archery) it's right up my alley, so i asked about doing a test in another thread, and it was immediately closed, and i was remarked against as "starting trouble"
 
Just a thought looking at the knives used in the cutting contest and some of the tests. Most of the knives in the contest are really built for the contest. They work very well for the tests. I have seen some threads where some of the knives break. My thougt is while Busse has built a knife which is great for survival it may not do that well in the cutting competition, and the others may not be that good for survival.

It would be interesting to see some other use knives put to the test to see if there is a big difference in these knives. I will tell you that I made a skinner that was pretty large (10" blade) and fairly narrow and shaving sharp and tried to cut a filled water bottle and I could only cut one. I think these guys are cutting 8-10
 
PCRKnives said:
Just a thought looking at the knives used in the cutting contest and some of the tests. Most of the knives in the contest are really built for the contest. They work very well for the tests. I have seen some threads where some of the knives break. My thougt is while Busse has built a knife which is great for survival it may not do that well in the cutting competition, and the others may not be that good for survival.
It would be interesting to see some other use knives put to the test to see if there is a big difference in these knives. I will tell you that I made a skinner that was pretty large (10" blade) and fairly narrow and shaving sharp and tried to cut a filled water bottle and I could only cut one. I think these guys are cutting 8-10
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Good points here. I am not sure that Jerry ever built a Busse knife specifically for a "cutting competition". Most of the blades I have seen in these contests are thinner in profile too. But I am not sure if that is always the case.

Busse knives are made to be really good at most things but not necessarily the best at any one thing.

Take these same "competition blades" and see how they do against a Busse at prying and extreme impact. That's more how I see a Busse. But that's just me.

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Are you speaking of the tests that knifemakers do to get their journeysmith or mastersmith badges?
 
At many knife shows they have a cutting competition. They will cut hanging ropes, chop through a 2 x 4, stab ping pong balls in water , and cut through as many filled water bottles in one swing as possible. These will change show to show. The cutting contest at the annual Blade show was what I thing he we referring.
 
I have used my Busse BM at two different contest and have placed in the top ten. If I were to have Busse modify it to a competition profile I would have taken first place for sure. Ban now has one of my blades being re profiled for next years competition.
I haven't seen you at blade, but be there this year.
 
Tyrkon Lawson said:
Take these same "competition blades" and see how they do against a Busse at prying and extreme impact. That's more how I see a Busse. But that's just me.
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Nope, not for me and I can't speak for others, but... I want my knife to first excel at cutting and slicing, not prying or extreme impact. :eek: :D
 
Tyrkon Lawson said:
Take these same "competition blades" and see how they do against a Busse at prying and extreme impact. That's more how I see a Busse. But that's just me.

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I was refering to the Bladeshow West Cutting competion.

I have noticed that the Crowbarshow West Prying competition was won this year by a 36" prybar. It beat all other knives hands down.

The Extreme Impactshow West contest was won by a 3lb solid steel sledgehammer. In addition to smashing bricks, cinder blocks, pottery, and a Ming vase, this tool pounded into submission all other knife blades it came in contact with, and had barely a nick to its surface. One interesting note: a humble rock did a better job as a hammer than all the other knife edges in the contest as well.:)

www.prybarforums.com
www.extremeimpactforums.com
 
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Nope, not for me and I can't speak for others, but... I want my knife to first excel at cutting and slicing, not prying or extreme impact. :eek: :D
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Oh Busse knives cut and slice just fine. ;) As with any knife it depends on the profile amongst other things. My Busse knives are shaving sharp, can push cut a phone book in half, and keep an edge very well. That is sharp enough for me. I can't imagine I would need a knife to be any sharper that that for my purposes.

But they also are great choppers and can do some decent prying in a pinch. That is why many of us love Busse knives. We do not need to carry an axe/hatchet, prybar/crowbar, and a thin knife around. I have found that, although my Busse knives are not as effecient at a single job, such as a prybar/crowbar is at prying, it still does a great job at multiple tasks.

I am not a minimalist when it comes to gear but it is still nice not to have to lug around multiple tools when my FFBM, for instance, works good enough.

BTW: Most of us who own and use Busse knives have and use other great makes and models as well. We just like good knives and there are MANY out there. I myself am looking at the new K9 knives offering. Looks pretty good. :D:thumbup:
 
bearcut said:
I was refering to the Bladeshow West Cutting competion.

I have noticed that the Crowbarshow West Prying competition was won this year by a 36" prybar. It beat all other knives hands down.

The Extreme Impactshow West contest was won by a 3lb solid steel sledgehammer. In addition to smashing bricks, cinder blocks and pottery, this tool pounded all other knife blades it came in contact with and had barely a nick to its surface. One interesting note: a humble rock did a better job as a hammer than all the other knife edges in the contest as well.:)
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Just for kicks, could you post a pic of yourself with a 3lbs solid sledgehammer and a 36" prybar attached to your person. Perhaps on a trek into the back country? Now we're talking bro. :p:thumbup:
 
I've always thought I could wear out that puny 2X4 and sever the rope with a CG FBM and certainly with a FBM LE. Hell I think I could hold my own in some of the 'Lumberjack' competitions sometimes.
 
I will post a pic as soon as you post a pic of you push cutting a phonebook in half.:yawn:
 
Here ya go!

Busse CG BATAC




Okay, so I didn't cut it in half. More like the corners. But that is due to the blade size. It was a 5" blade. Not the sharpest knife in the world. But my point was that that is sharp enough for my uses.

Now it's your turn. :D
 
So you lied?
I can't imagine a Busse owner doing that!:rolleyes:

Don't worry, Jerry loves you guys. People like you keep him in business.


No picture from me.
 
No, not a lie. I was referring to the height not the with of the book. But I will try with a longer blade some time.
:D Lol
 
Busse AK47 on my wife's MSAT book...



But don't let her know. ;)

Again, not the sharpest but I have some decent clips showing its flex and some prying. My point, again, is that my knives are sharp enough. ;)
 
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