2012 BladeForums Limited Kershaw Skyline PREORDER Thread - S30V, Blue G10 - $90 ea

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Dude, not insulting anyone. You don't like how this knife turned out, then cancel you order. To me that's not the spirit of this knife. Scale color, blade steel, blade grind, knife model, those are all secondary. This is about supporting Blade Forums and the Kershaw sub-Forum. We'll be getting a unique knife that no one else will ever be able to buy once they are all sold. We'll be supporting Spark and Blade Forums and the Kershaw sub-forum. That, to me, is what this is about, not nit-picking over the details of the knife.

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All of them have, and still do, make special runs all the time. Yes, they were advertised as FFG and they are not, to you that might not be a big deal and to others it might, and then there are some in the middle. To some $90 is a lot of $, to others it is not. But if you are inferring that If I order A and pay $189 in my case because I bought 2, and I get B, and I am a nitpicker because I say I am dissapointed, wondering what to do, IMO that is a bit dismissive and slightly insulting, the grind is a major property of a blade. $90 isn't alot for a blade, but it is for a Skyline, SV30 or not. Relatively speaking in the knive steel world SV30 pretty low on the steel totem pole, I have bought several Kershaw SV30 editions, and the cost different was usually only about $10-$15 more (I have a few Blur's for example off of the top of my head that fall in that category).

For me personally FFG blades are what I collect as much as possible, I just love that grind, but in this case, true, it isn't all about the grind, but it was a good chunk of it for me, given 14C28N is darn good steel too, SV30 wasn't much of a factor for me. I AM curious about the new grind that Jim mentioned, hence my question in another post, maybe this Skyline WON'T look like all of my others with blue scales?

As Spark very nobly said (and I mean that sincerely), he took full responsibility, and gave everyone the option to do what they want regarding canceling, etc. No better way to handle the situation IMO, he has done everyone right. And the Kershaw God Jim (777 best blade I believe I have ever seen in my life, engineering, materials, looks, you name it, to ME 777=perfection, and Jim being responsible for that knife makes him a genius in my mind :)) stepping in as well protecting his own and addressing everyone's questions when he could be working on the design for the next blade of the year is pretty awesome too. So it is all handled, everyone has a decision to make based on why THEY chose to purchase this knife.

So why post to make general insults at the population of BF, and since you posted in this thread, I am assuming targeting people in this thread, because they are disappointing that they ordered A and got B? You have to admit, it is a curve ball, and this is a thread dedicated to talking about this knife. Looking for someone to blame isn't really productive I agree, but Spark was a man and put an end to that. And If Thomas banned himself because people reacting to the curve ball? That surprises me... maybe he is just under a lot of pressure or feels under-appreciated because or ? I dunno, but all in all I don't see this as that big of a deal enough for him to quit BF? Perhaps I missed some posts that were a lot worse than what I have read so far, which were all, dang, that stinks, count me in anyway, and a couple saying they were now on the fence (I am one of those). Maybe some posts were edited or deleted?

To be honest, I am just straight up confused, I started reading backwards to catch up on this thread and expected to find a lot more drama than I did going backwards.

I expect to get banned for even posting my opinion in my thread as it has been made clear that unless I have been a member for years I am a nobody and my thoughts aren't worth a shit, but at this point in what little time is left of my life, I am willing to take that risk, seeing people getting insulted for reacting to what happened to me seems unnecessary vs. saying nothing.
 
Yeah, the grind is wrong. It was an honest mistake, nothing more. Pissing and moaning won't change anything. Don't like it? Spark will give you a full refund. End of story.
 
I'm definitley still IN. To me, it's going to be a great knife. I fully understand and support the desire of some members to cancel their orders because the knife won't be exactly what was expected when ordered. This issue really did catch everyone off-guard so some emotional responses are to be expected. I originally ordered one knife because I really WANT this knife (even with the FG grind), and was happy to support BFC in the process. Anyone who no longer wants this knife due to the misunderstanding/miscommunication w/ Kershaw shouldn't be branded as someone who is nitpicking or who doesn't support BFC (in the end, it comes down to people paid money for a specific product, as Ta2 said).

Thanks to Kershaw for accepting this order and manufacturing our unique knife.

Lastly, thanks to Spark, for putting up with all the headaches throughout the duration of this project (hope you're not deterred from engaging in future projects). I haven't been on BFC very long, but in my short time here, Spark has been a stand-up guy in everything he's done. Whether it's accepting responsibility for things gone wrong, issuing refunds for whatever reason, or being involving in special projects like this, Spark is always doing his best for our COMMUNITY. Thanks for this project, and thanks for providing us with this venue to learn, socialize, and disagree from time to time.

-Greg (Shag)
 
DELETED, so at least no one has to wade through my BS to read about the point of the thread, sorry to newcomers about having to wade through everyone elses.
 
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I'm on board with PG on this one. Stop the complaining. If you don't like the damn knife, cancel your order. Yes, conservativeknives, I have the same exact opinion as PG.

I'm quite sure that it isn't easy for Kershaw to do this for us. Ok, Spark says FFG, Thomas FG only. So what? People make mistakes. If you honestly come here to whine about the 1/8'" of your steel that isn't ground just to your specifications, leave. Things like this are the reason Thomas left in the first place (as far as I understand it)

Thank you Jimmer and Spark for your calm, reasonable attitude. You are the reason I stick around here. Thank you for making a special knife just for some weird knife guys on a website that you don't know, based on good will. I for one will appreciate the hell out of this thing, no matter how the stinkin' blade ends up looking.

I am keeping my order, continue to support bladeforums, will love this knife, and look forward to receiving it. I understand that at some point things got lost in translation.
 
Yeah, the grind is wrong. It was an honest mistake, nothing more. Pissing and moaning won't change anything. Don't like it? Spark will give you a full refund. End of story.

Thank you.

Sorry, my rant is over now. This whole process is just turning into something that leaves a bad taste in one's mouth.
 
Sorry you feel that my post was an insult, mcraft. But if the shoe fits, then wear it. Otherwise, cancel your order (like you've done) and move on and let the rest of us enjoy this collaboration.

That is exactly what I am saying, but saying "Constant complainers, whiners, and nit-pickers being a prime example of the reasons why he left. What other major knife manufacturing company would take the effort to produce a 500 knife run BF special? Buck, Spyderco, Benchmade?" in PG5768's post, well, "Constant complainers, whiners, and nit-pickers"sounds like an insult to me and doesn't belong in this thread. I tried to find the "Constant complainers, whiners, and nit-pickers", but couldn't, hence the confusion on why the post with those terms which are insults, period. To score points with Thomas? Regarding the other statement, knife makers do it ALL THE TIME, so it isn't like Kershaw had to move heaven and earth to make these. Kershaw does sprints all the time too just for the heck of it (or based on market research or whatever), again I know this because I own some of those too, this is just another sprint for BF, the difference being perhaps the $ that Kershaw makes vs. BF, but it ain't like Kershaw had to make a new fab to make these knives. My point is why is half of this crap in this tread? The posts serve no purpose, especially the ones insulting people that I am assuming aren't known to the poster. The appropriate thing to do is click the report to moderator button, which I did, I don't want to have to read through this crap.

That is all I have to say about that, back to the purpose of the thread, what exactly what will the grind look like? The pic I posted in my question, which I have been looking for ever since it was originally posted in this thread? That pic came from the origninal press release of the Skyline BTW(that is where I found it to originate via Google Image Search), so I am assuming between that pic and production they changed the grind to what is now the standard Skyline grind. Or something else new? I know it isn't like all of my other Skylines given Jim said it was a new grind, so I am really interested in hearing about/seeing that new grind!!!

P.S. I DID cancel, but for different reasons that are no ones business, and I am not trying to moderate this thread, just stating my worthless opinion, and then asking about the new grind Jim referred to. If JIM the 777 God (and maybe other Kershaw knives I love, I really don't know who designed alot of them, like the Tilt which I also love) has something to do with these blades, and is gonna do some new sweet grind, then I may order more than I did to begin with :).
 
Very apropos, considering all the "static" in this thread. This should be about a special knife by a major knife company that only we here on Blade Forums know about and can buy. To me the specifics are secondary, as long its unique to BFC, and marked accordingly, like 1760BFC, then I'm in.
 
Sorry you feel that my post was an insult, mcraft. But if the shoe fits, then wear it. Otherwise, cancel your order (like you've done) and move on and let the rest of us enjoy this collaboration.

+a million :thumbup:
 
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Thank you.

Sorry, my rant is over now. This whole process is just turning into something that leaves a bad taste in one's mouth.
I just wanna hear more about the new grind Jim is referring to, not all of this other stuff. Based on the pics posted, I am hoping they keep coming, staying tuned for more pics! I love FFG, but that one pic I and others have posted I think is the best of both worlds, ALMOST FFG, but with just enough flat for easy consistent touch-ups. I looked through the couple hundred knives I have, and none have a grind quite like that pic, it is excellent. P.S. to ThievesLikeUs, sorry, I drooled on your Sebenza's (if that was your vid :)).
 
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And This is Why we can't have nice Things.....:grumpy: And I'm pretty sure 98% of you guys aren't even gonna use the knife. Thanks again Spark,Thomas and KAI for making this possible for the diehards who love sprint runs and Kershaws.
 
Well, this is unfortunate... Hate to see how hard people are taking this on every side of the deal. I understand the disappointment, but I'm still excited to get the two I ordered. The blue G10 and the stonewash finish were the real draws for me, not the grind, and I can't wait to get my hands on them.

Spark taking responsibility for this is a really cool thing for him to do, but I doubt anyone is really to BLAME here. I hope he doesn't take it hard enough to discourage him from any other future goals he might have in mind. Mix-ups happen, some details tend to fall through the cracks when major plans are undertaken. I just wanted to voice my thanks to everyone involved in making this happen. It was a risky, expensive undertaking for Spark, and a lot of work for the good folks at Kershaw to bring the idea to life. The fact that it got done at all is something to be celebrated, and I really hope every last one of these knives gets a successful sale with a happy owner.

I'd buy a third one right now, if my wallet wasn't caving in from the vacuum created by my spending habits as of late. If I buy another knife it may collapse into a miniature black hole and then we'd all have something much worse to worry about, wouldn't we?
 
Well, this is unfortunate... Hate to see how hard people are taking this on every side of the deal. I understand the disappointment, but I'm still excited to get the two I ordered. The blue G10 and the stonewash finish were the real draws for me, not the grind, and I can't wait to get my hands on them.

Spark taking responsibility for this is a really cool thing for him to do, but I doubt anyone is really to BLAME here. I hope he doesn't take it hard enough to discourage him from any other future goals he might have in mind. Mix-ups happen, some details tend to fall through the cracks when major plans are undertaken. I just wanted to voice my thanks to everyone involved in making this happen. It was a risky, expensive undertaking for Spark, and a lot of work for the good folks at Kershaw to bring the idea to life. The fact that it got done at all is something to be celebrated, and I really hope every last one of these knives gets a successful sale with a happy owner.

I'd buy a third one right now, if my wallet wasn't caving in from the vacuum created by my spending habits as of late. If I buy another knife it may collapse into a miniature black hole and then we'd all have something much worse to worry about, wouldn't we?

I have to agree, that is why I wanted this as well as to support the forum and to get a piece of forum history as this place is such a great community to be a part of.
 
I took a few pictures on Friday to give you an update. Here are the S30V Skyline blades getting Flat ground. Getting closer...

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Thanks jimmer_5! I appreciate the update and the pix. Here's to hoping we get to see a completed knife with scales.

I can hardly wait!
 
Pretty cool to see the knives as they are being made, it would be cool to take one each of the pics as the knives progress, print them out, then put them in order with one of the finished knives in a display case at the end of the progression of pics like this one, no? http://www.ebay.com/itm/120968202166.

Especially cool considering you can point to that pic and say "one of those pieces of metal is right here at the end, and look at her now"

What are those round things on the tips, are these blanks cast or something and those are part of the cast that is removed right after, or is there a purpose for them as the knife is being made, as perhaps a way to hold them as they are being machined without touching any part of the finished knife(so as to avoid any clamp marks or whatever on parts of the blade that WILL be in the finished knife) as in that case I assume they would be removed last right before final grinding? Is there a way to get one of those to throw in the above mentioned display case?
 
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People are talking way too much on this thread, Jimmer was right. This thread needs to be locked

NOt a bad point, one thread where just the mods can post updates for those that only care about where their knife is, and another for stupid questions like mine above (to someone who just wants to know where there knife is, or everyone, I dunno, I only see through my eyes :).
 
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