I don't believe that a cutoff date is the issue here. The original order date was when 125 of these had been ordered and paid for. That threshold has been passed for quite some time, with no word that the order has actually been placed. From what I gathered from the beginning, there was some agreement to order 300 of these, with the order placed upon payment of the first 125. If that is indeed the case, the business decision (which is what this is, forum knife or not) may not be looking all that good based on the apparent lack of early interest. No one would want to have to place an agreed upon order of 300 of anything only to have to potentially heavily discount (probably below cost) a third or so of the unsold stock to regain a portion of the original investment. If that's not the case, I'd be surprised, as all it would have taken is a phone call and a bank transfer to get the ball rolling over a month ago. Instead, we continue to here much of nothing. If I'm wrong, and if I offended anybody, I apologize, but I call 'em like I see 'em.