2013 NYCKS - Knife Glamour Showing!

sawbone said:
Honestly.
I currently own 2.

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Now, I'm interested to hear what answer or opinion this
formed for you.
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OK, thanks. First off, congrats on the Direware product. it's substantial, and, you're right, it's built to USE and cut. You deserve to be proud of that.

It's also commanding a pretty penny in the aftermarket. You know they are selling for more than an order. That's good thing.

Those of us who have been around Custom Knives for a length of time understand that there are LOTS of levels of enjoyment in Customs. For centuries knives have been ornamental beyond usefulness. It's a tool, yes, but it's ALSO a means for art and engineering. We appreciate the engineering and aesthetics involved, even if the end product isn't single-purpose built for only cutting and carrying.

Those of us who collect and purchase these knives add them into our 'collections'. Like I've told you, I have 30 which are valued over $1000. That's real.

My rotation of Custom knives which I use on a daily basis numbers about four. I work in a boatyard and in my studio. I lose knives off my belt with disappointing regularity, so I don't carry anything over $200 to my work. Studio: I cut cardboard boxes. Nothing glamorous.

However, I've supported Custom Knives with a purchase of over $1000 thirty times. That's put actual food on a makers table, and my photography keeps their attractive work in the public's eye.

We've also learned that once you USE a knife, however lightly, your resale value plummets from 25%-50% right then. I'd like to acquire new knives and I do so by selling off a piece I've enjoyed for years. One in = one out. I maximize my resale value, and in turn my purchasing power with my 'safe queen' knives.

I'll credit another member who long ago taught me this: All my knives are 'users': I use them to please my senses: Art, design, and pride of ownership. (Chuck Gollnick)

1. When you get to the level where you want to acquire more, you will need to pay attention to resale and condition.
2. When you have filled up your need for the 'knives as a tool' aspect, you may want to support Custom knives with their inherent aspect outside of mere usefullness.

I wish you were more open minded, or at least acceptable without critiquing as unsuitable outstanding work. If everyone had your mindset we'd have WAYYY fewer quality knives, because no maker can sustain himself solely on user knives. Collectors purchase multitudes.

Thanks for being honest.

Coop
 
sawbone said:
Honestly.
I currently own 2.
1 of which I haven't even taken delivery on yet.
I currently own the Direware Solo V4 with Damascus blade
which I EDC.
I own but it hasn't been delivered yet, a full custom Medford
Praetorian Ti.
I also have an order placed for a new Direware Solo V4 and
a new S-90. But those 2 don't count, technically, because
although custom knives, they aren't over $1000 each unless
their purchased from the ridiculous secondary market.
Now, I'm interested to hear what answer or opinion this
formed for you.
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I'm very impressed by the politeness displayed toward your posts.
I'm of the mind that your posts exhibit an inordinate amount of dumbassery.

You've bought a flavour of the month custom(?) knife, (no slam on Direware) for probably well over $500 for daily use, when you could have bought a high end production knife for half that amount that would work as well or better, and yet you're slagging knives, knife makers and collectors who made the category of knife you like possible. I don't understand your 'logic'.

Anyway, like I said, you should pay more attention to Coop's post. I find it amazing how thorough and kind a response he gave you, when all I could think to say is shut up and pay attention.
 
betzner said:
SharpByCoop - 9000 posts

sawbone - 25 posts

winner??? I think we all know
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After such an educational post like Coop's, I'm thinking there are no winners or losers, but perhaps there IS one more understanding forumite.
 
I can't sum up the niche and the choices involved better than Coop. But one thing should be made clear. I have knives from multiple makers in this thread. They ARE made to be used. Maybe not for prying, puncturing, the breaking of windows or skulls, or the slaying of zombies. But cutting, slicing, dressing, yes.

I carry and use two Hanson folders weekly. I can attest to their usability in addition to their beauty. The very nature of the ABS system of recognition demands function mated with beauty. I'm sure non ABS makers may adhere to similar criteria for their knives. A great many maker of fine knives would snicker at the notion that use has a secondary prominence for them as makers.

Your contentions regarding usability may have hurt their feelings if you didn't humor them so at the same time.

Seth
 
Newer posters to this subforum who kinda get shot down either stick around or never come back. Sawbone, you'll notice that almost every poster in this thread can be identified with a first or last name, or both.

If you decide to stick around, you might wanna sign your posts with at least a first name, which might gain you more credibility, or at least more respect. Just a suggestion.
 
I've been shot down plenty over the past 8 years I've been a resident of this forum. I might have learned the most through those experiences, most important to me being that the interest is stronger than the personalities.
 
Coop

spoken like the true gentleman you are

You are a huge part of what makes the custom scene such a blast and you are a credit to the game
 
Coop, I always feel like I should send you a "tenspot" when you post these show photos. It saves me a fortune in airfare.
As far as sawbones comment , I have found most of the custom makers i know make their knives "to be used" and it is my decision to put them on a display pedestal. Art is ,of course, in the eye of the beholder.
 
sawbone said:
My personal favorites are the black and blue Thorburn and
the Tom Ferry.
Yet again, nothing more than very expensive dust collectors.
I've never understood the point of a knife you can't use?!?!
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There is irony in this post. Tom stopped by the house today. The knife Coop photographed was clipped to his pocket.

I asked Tom if he was concerned about damaging the engraving. He laughed and said the engraving on this knife was protected by the carbon fiber window frame. He handed me the knife and there were no scratches anywhere. I guess no one told Tom the knife should be on a shelf collecting dust. ;)

Chuck
 
I think the fact that the only two high dollar knives Sawbone owns are a Medford and a Direware should tell us a lot about him.
 
Buffalohump said:
What an incredible selection! Beautiful images all and a fantastic variety indeed... personal favourites are the Tom Ferry - incredible! - and the Fellhoelter. Great to see some South Africans were represented. Just a note on the A2 knives (pic #6) its actually Andre van Heerden. ;)
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Please note: (pic #6)
Andre Thorburn and Andre van Heerden collaboration... therefor A2. Good combination!!
 
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