2021 Prices Are Out

I have to say the prices on some of the items even with MAP would be too rich for me. The price of the Talwar really caught me off guard. Might buy the drop forged bowie and AD-15 lite, but that would be it. As far as the offering in 3V, I'll stick with customs for those prices that come with kydex or leather sheaths.
 
I doubt you'll see those high priced knives stick around in the line-up. Maybe discontinued next year.
 
The tail cannot wag the dog ! :rolleyes:

Prices will adjust to the actual market value , if product is to be sold . ;)
 
goldie said:
The mini recon 1 seems pretty reasonable probably gonna be 55 or so the 3v recon might be 375 the trailmaster 400 i didnt expect them to be that much gonna have to see about them...,
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So would it be fair to say that you are thinking 20% off of MSRP for street price ? I'm just curious what people think will be the street price. Edit - so far the guessing of street price seems to be 15% to 25% off MSRP ?
 
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looking at the newer models :
cold steel lists the 4 max scout for 129.99 most retailers are selling for 110.99
cold steel lists the ad10 for 239.99 most retailers for 191.99
gunsite lists for $129.99 and is going for 81
sr 1 lites list for 69.99 and are going for 59.99
YET it seems as recon 1 and voyagers and code 4 can be found for a little more than half the price of retail.
in my opinon there is no set guidline.
We must remeber Thornton's theroy of supply and demand rules all sales. IMO
I am of the opinion I do NOT do business with ANY company that has NO customer service at all.
 
insta9ves said:
If you take a standard 25% off the MSRP the mini recon 1 came out to be $60, which is not bad considering the competition. The Spyderco Delica 4 in VG10, which is arguably similar steel is selling at $84 MAP price right now, and it's in FRN scale. Comparing with other CS model that also uses AUS10 i.e. Airlite, the price is also not bad.

Obviously this is assuming the MAP pricing is 25% OFF MSRP. With GSM, this could be higher or lower. Historically, before CS implemented MAP pricing for some model(i.e. AD10 and AD15) in 2019, the street price is usually around 45% OFF MSRP.

Anyway, we shall see once the retailer started posting these new products.
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I agree, I will most likely get one. I don't care if it's drop point, spear point, tanto point or clip point.
 
3v seems pricy, but let's see what they hit the dealers for... you really can get a custom made for those prices!

but a 3v kukri! that has to be the best hard use knife ever made surely???
 
yes id say 15% to 20% but it seems as time goes on the price lowers a bit more from what ive seen.The san mai trailmaster retails for 499 its going for 270-300 but its been around for years. The 3v trailmaster is 539 so im guessing it comes in around 325 or 350 maybe a bit more,which i still more than i thought ; i figured 250 recon scout 3v 300 trailmaster 3v. Are they worth it? i just dont know I have a carbon v trailmaster which has been great over the years will the 3v one be that much better? And i got that with a few other knives,sold them wound up w the trailmaster for free...
 
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DocJD said:
The tail cannot wag the dog ! :rolleyes:

Prices will adjust to the actual market value , if product is to be sold . ;)
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oh but it can and does. as an example as we use this saying. the labor market sure is in constr right now. workers are wagging the company....and they can right now.
 
Prices way too high for products not made in America. Miss the days where you could get a new Holdout II aus8 for $32 shipped on fleabay. "Upgraded" steel is not worth the cost for these. If they had a warranty like benchmade, kershaw/zt, busse, could maybe justify the prices, but can't as is.
 
Was the msrp of the master hunter in 3v always $200?
Because sites in Europe list the msrp as € 240 or $ 292, that's 50% increase.
A lot extra for a knife that's made in Europe in the first place.
 
DocJD said:
The tail cannot wag the dog ! :rolleyes:

Prices will adjust to the actual market value , if product is to be sold . ;)
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Say how? If they have a fixed % of retail over MSRP (i.e., MAP), how that retail price can be "adjusted?" You are not talking about secondary market like the Exchange here. I did not see a manufacturer adjust the % of MSRP after a product is already in dealers (if anything, they raise prices annually). Price adjustment of discontinued products is a completely different story.
 
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jbmonkey said:
oh but it can and does. as an example as we use this saying. the labor market sure is in constr right now. workers are wagging the company....and they can right now.
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So in your view working people -the vast majority in any country-are the tail while the tiny minority of rich people are the dog?
 
The 4max elite is on Bladehq coming soon for 424.99 thats way high only 75 off retail.Mini recon 1s are 67.99 higher than expected,too.That kind of pricing would put the trailmaster at the 450 range recon scout around 400-425 forget the kukri it would be 500-600 dont quote me on these prices its just a guess only that 4max elites price and recon 1 is what i saw thats real..i hope im wrong about the others; ugh.....
 
sharp_edge said:
Say how? If they have a fixed % of retail over MSRP (i.e., MAP), how that retail price can be "adjusted?" You are not talking about secondary market like the Exchange here. I did not see a manufacturer adjust the % of MSRP after a product is already in dealers (if anything, they raise prices annually). Price adjustment of discontinued products is a completely different story.
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Cold Steel has not (so far) applied MAP with the same inclusive vigor as other co. like Spyderco .

You can still shop around , especially for the older models and find substantial discounts off MAP prices .

Even the strict MAP companies have their sales and clearance events allowed .

Market forces do eventually apply . If you set prices too high , your stuff won't sell as well .
 
Larry Turko said:
So in your view working people -the vast majority in any country-are the tail while the tiny minority of rich people are the dog?
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I'll say it a different way, so you understand it better, Larry. its less about rich or poor as thats not the topic at all. more about who is in control of the operation. the contractors or subs are the tail of the national corporate builders typically. right now the subs are waging the dog. I am a sub not a corporate national builder.

its a saying we, the subs use to call the shift.

normally the builders wag us around. we have more control right now, so we feel like we are wagging the dog, being the subs.
 
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