2022 Alox LE Color

Quiet said:
Naturally! I just thought it was a ridiculous statement to make. As you say, releasing the same knife in a different color is one of the things Victorinox just does, and their fans (like you and me) happen to enjoy that. The idea that they should stop those other offerings because someone wants scissors is...well, you know.



A theory I have is it's possible that Victorinox tracks what sells and doesn't sell through some mechanism or tool, and they've got data to prove that the tools they provide currently are the most successful models. As an example, there's a reason why the Pioneer X (with scissors) appears to have supplanted the Pioneer (with no scissors) in the special variant run, despite the fact that the PX is a thicker tool in the pocket, all things considered.

It also bears mentioning that amount of Victorinox's offerings that we here in America never see, is huge. HUUUUGE. I'm a member of a few Victorinox Facebook pages and literally every day people are posting knives that we never got here in the States, ALOX in crazy, beautiful colors, knives with neat toolsets that were never offered here, etc. So, who knows, maybe they do make what you want, but you just can't get it here.
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Check this one out. Only available in Portugal.

https://lojadasfacas.pt/victorinox-climber-3d-touch-and-feel
 
This thread motivated me to go ahead and grab that Pioneer X, because a couple of the Vic dealers I follow are already showing theirs as sold out. Looks like many folks will be after this one!
 
Quiet said:
A theory I have is it's possible that Victorinox tracks what sells and doesn't sell through some mechanism or tool, and they've got data to prove that the tools they provide currently are the most successful models. As an example, there's a reason why the Pioneer X (with scissors) appears to have supplanted the Pioneer (with no scissors) in the special variant run, despite the fact that the PX is a thicker tool in the pocket, all things considered.

It also bears mentioning that amount of Victorinox's offerings that we here in America never see, is huge. HUUUUGE. I'm a member of a few Victorinox Facebook pages and literally every day people are posting knives that we never got here in the States, ALOX in crazy, beautiful colors, knives with neat toolsets that were never offered here, etc. So, who knows, maybe they do make what you want, but you just can't get it here.
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Yeah, that doesn't help them get my money.
I'm sure marketing keeps track of all the sales data and has it nicely broken up. But that tells them history and we know things can change.
It would be nice if they tried a test run or two.
 
Grey is a little ”boring” but would make great user. Might get the classic since I gave my grey one to my girl friend.
 
Ourorboros said:
Yeah, that doesn't help them get my money.
I'm sure marketing keeps track of all the sales data and has it nicely broken up. But that tells them history and we know things can change.
It would be nice if they tried a test run or two.
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Hey, I completely understand. We all have things we'd like to see from them, and you're definitely free to spend your money where you'd like. Me personally, I'd love to see them do an ALOX Ranger 78, but of course, that's probably not in the cards. But until then, I'll buy the things they make that catch my eye, and if I feel a complete need for something they don't make, I'll either go elsewhere or have it made for me.

Speaking of which, I need to backtrack and try to pick up a 2021 Hunter Pro in Tiger Orange before they completely dry up.
 
Quiet said:
Hey, I completely understand. We all have things we'd like to see from them, and you're definitely free to spend your money where you'd like. Me personally, I'd love to see them do an ALOX Ranger 78, but of course, that's probably not in the cards. But until then, I'll buy the things they make that catch my eye, and if I feel a complete need for something they don't make, I'll either go elsewhere or have it made for me.

Speaking of which, I need to backtrack and try to pick up a 2021 Hunter Pro in Tiger Orange before they completely dry up.
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I'd like to hear your take on the Hunter Pro. The price has been spooking me off, but I can maybe massage my local guy a bit.

I like this new grey color too!
 
Kiteman72 said:
I'd like to hear your take on the Hunter Pro. The price has been spooking me off, but I can maybe massage my local guy a bit.

I like this new grey color too!
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Hoo-boy. Ok, so....I LIKE mine. The only one I have at current is the one in the classic red ALOX, without the Spyderhole "opening hole" and while it's a pretty good knife, I will say that there are really only one reason for buying it:

1. "I like Victorinox knives, oooohhhh they made a large lockback folder with a 4 inch blade! It'd be awesome to have a large folder made by Victorinox, I'm IN!"
2. See reason #1.

And that's it. I don't want to derail the thread too much. Let's get the negatives out of the way first:

1. It's heavy for what it is, like Buck 110 heavy. It was expected, of course given the nature of the construction.
2. It's a large blade, and if you don't get one of the models with the blade with the opening hole, you're effectively left with a two-handed opening blade, although it IS pinchable.
3. The pocket clip is VERY long (although it IS deepish carry), and you basically have to wrap the end of the clip on the table top if you want the pocket clip to go on the other side of the knife for left-hand carry.
4. The blade grind is basically a saber grind (which isn't my favorite, though since they consider this a camping/outdoors knife, I suppose that makes sense).
5. It lacks overall refinement. Vic is clearly not a lockback folding knife making company. As I said, it's heavy, the lockback bar is somewhat mushy, they for some absurd reason left off ALL manner of opening methods off the blades of literally half the lineup. Obviously, not made of a modern supersteel.

That said, there are a few good things about it as well.

1. Every one of these I've seen comes with a screaming sharp edge. I've gifted one of these to at least three friends at this point, all of whom saw mine, and immediately wanted one. They aren't knife guys, so that tells me that once again, Vic was able to make something that attracts people who don't need all the bells and whistles we're used to.
2. The fit and finish ARE good on these. Those big slabs of red ALOX are beautiful, with the contrasting silver Vic icon at a canted angle to look neat. No harsh edges, they made this to fit in your hand.
3. Which it does. This knife fits my XL-2XL hand very well, and they do open smoothly.
4. There are certainly worse ways to spend $100 (the Reds come up pretty often discounted). I know, I've done it. 🤣

Are there better knives for the money? Absolutely, and I won't try to sell you on the Hunter Pro. From an objective perspective, if you're going to get one, get one with the opening hole, it'll be a much more functional one-hander. The issue here is that Victorinox is sneaky, and they only offer some colors in one blade shape (with the hole), and other colors with the blade without. So, that is what it is.

That said, I'm probably going to end up with both the 2021 and 2022 Hunter Pros, I personally enjoy them, but I'm good with their foibles. I am really liking that dark grey color, and think it will contrast well with my current ALOX collection, which is more or less all bright colors.
 
Holy cow, man, what a great write-up! Thanks so much.

I am now very much considering giving one a try. I love big knives and limited editions!

Hey, Blade Magazine, over here! Seriously, all my questions answered, and way more. :thumbsup:
 
Man, phenomenal color on these. It’s impossible to photograph, but there’s actually a faint violet sheen to this color grey. The guys on the Vic boards have ascertained that it’s the same color that was on the ALOX Damasteel Pioneer LE from some years back.

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Quiet said:
Man, phenomenal color on these. It’s impossible to photograph, but there’s actually a faint violet sheen to this color grey. The guys on the Vic boards have ascertained that it’s the same color that was on the ALOX Damasteel Pioneer LE from some years back.

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Your picture looks much better, IMO than the marketing pictures. Glad I ordered one.
 
I didn't want to start a whole new thread about this but thought it was worth mentioning and it seems somewhat relevant here. I've been checking all year for this year's annual Limited Edition classics with no luck, and according to SAKWiki I guess they aren't doing it this year.
 
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