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.22 Rifle Discussion
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My brother-in-law has one of those short mountie 39's.
Great gun!
I'm in the market for a .22 myself i'd love a Marlin but i think i'll end up buying a Henry .22 levergun instead.
They have a decent rep and (at least round here) the Henry is only half the price of a Marlin!
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nerf!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i currently have a 10/22 that is cool reliable and i love it. but...... i had a model 60 that me and a friend put 6000 rds of cheap ammo thru in about 2 months and never cleaned it until that sucker got so slimey gummed up we had to clean it with break cleaner a wire brush and a nail file.i was impressed! great rifle in its own right.
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My one and only is a Marlin 981T, bolt action .22lr-.22L-.22s. With a fairly inexpensive ammo, it is very accurate at 50 yards. In the photo of the target, I was sighting in with the Aguila HV ammo. First shot was high, second lower and last 3 rounds in the bull.
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this is my most valued gun. i bought it just as they stopped making them and it has nearly doubled in value since they are so rare on the market. this was the best $200 i've ever spent. Heres my M6.
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10/22 for Semi Auto. Lots of mags, TONS of aftermarket stuff available. I can shoot pennies at 50 yards with mine.
Savage Mark II for Bolt action.- has the accutrigger now, smooth action, accurate.
Savage Mark II for Bolt action.- has the accutrigger now, smooth action, accurate.
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I currently have the Marlin 60, Springfield 87A, and Remington Viper 522.
I am currently looking for a .22 Magnum that won't break the bank with a semi auto. I am thinking of either the Marlin 925 Mag or the Marlin 983. One has magazines and the other has a tube. Which would you suggest and why?
I've got a Savage bolt gun in .22 mag. Super gun, very accurate.
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i used to love shooting my dads .22 when i was growing up... he still refuses to part with it, to this day...
this thread is making me want to go and get one of my own...
this thread is making me want to go and get one of my own...
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First off; if you have the 60 and are happy with it, I would suggest that you consider any of a number of nice bolt actions first instead of a second semi-auto. You just don't get any simpler and more reliable a gun than an old Remington 511/513 or any of a number of Marlins, Savages, etc. Strong, reliable and a super simple manual of arms for when you are cold / tired / hungry, or if you have to train somebody else to use it in a hurry. A 22lr bolt action with a good peep sight or a nice bright low magnification scope on it is probably the most useful and versatile survival gun that there is.
Of the three I would buy the 10/22 and a couple spare mags, ditch the barrel band, freefloat the barrel with a dowel rod and some sandpaper and be content. I bought a 10/22 Youth / Compact (16 inch barrel and a shorter stock) and am completely happy with it. Most people would probably hate the glowing sights on it, but they don't bother me. I will probably replace them at some point with a peep sight setup though just to have a 22lr with peep sights for cheap practice.
I have a couple Rossi pumps (old Winchester pattern), a Marlin 39 (that is way older than me) and my father has a 60 and they all work great but for a SHTF survival gun there are just too many things that can go wrong with a tube mag that can't quickly or easily be fixed. They will work for decades under normal conditions but if it gets damaged your options are limited in the field. I can't even begin to guess how many 39s and 60's that we had to fix for people back when I worked sporting good retail years ago. At one of the stores we actually kept the sping tubes for the 60s as a pegged item out on the floor because we sold so many. 90% of the time people would be tired / in a hurry / let the kid load the gun and they would bind up the tube and get a crease in it, and the follower just wouldn't go past it.
Other issues:
- The actions on some tube mag guns can be harder to clean because you really have to pull them out of the stock to properly clean the shell lifter. On the Marlin 39 and the Rossi pumps this isn't an issue because the receivers separate when you remove the takedown screw, but on the 60s and some of the various Remington designs it can be a chore.
- Tube mag guns also tend to have a more complicated manual of arms for getting the gun back into condition 3. This may or may not be a concern for you.
- They can be harder to single load different rounds into because of this also. If you need a round of snake shot, or the gun is full of stingers and you want a nice quiet CB long, etc. On some guns it can take a lot of juggling to get the one in the chamber out and a different one in without binding things up with the round trying to come out of the tube. With a box / rotary mag gun just drop the mag and things get simple again.
Of the three I would buy the 10/22 and a couple spare mags, ditch the barrel band, freefloat the barrel with a dowel rod and some sandpaper and be content. I bought a 10/22 Youth / Compact (16 inch barrel and a shorter stock) and am completely happy with it. Most people would probably hate the glowing sights on it, but they don't bother me. I will probably replace them at some point with a peep sight setup though just to have a 22lr with peep sights for cheap practice.
I have a couple Rossi pumps (old Winchester pattern), a Marlin 39 (that is way older than me) and my father has a 60 and they all work great but for a SHTF survival gun there are just too many things that can go wrong with a tube mag that can't quickly or easily be fixed. They will work for decades under normal conditions but if it gets damaged your options are limited in the field. I can't even begin to guess how many 39s and 60's that we had to fix for people back when I worked sporting good retail years ago. At one of the stores we actually kept the sping tubes for the 60s as a pegged item out on the floor because we sold so many. 90% of the time people would be tired / in a hurry / let the kid load the gun and they would bind up the tube and get a crease in it, and the follower just wouldn't go past it.
Other issues:
- The actions on some tube mag guns can be harder to clean because you really have to pull them out of the stock to properly clean the shell lifter. On the Marlin 39 and the Rossi pumps this isn't an issue because the receivers separate when you remove the takedown screw, but on the 60s and some of the various Remington designs it can be a chore.
- Tube mag guns also tend to have a more complicated manual of arms for getting the gun back into condition 3. This may or may not be a concern for you.
- They can be harder to single load different rounds into because of this also. If you need a round of snake shot, or the gun is full of stingers and you want a nice quiet CB long, etc. On some guns it can take a lot of juggling to get the one in the chamber out and a different one in without binding things up with the round trying to come out of the tube. With a box / rotary mag gun just drop the mag and things get simple again.
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I currently have the Marlin 60, Springfield 87A, and Remington Viper 522.
I am currently looking for a .22 Magnum that won't break the bank with a semi auto. I am thinking of either the Marlin 925 Mag or the Marlin 983. One has magazines and the other has a tube. Which would you suggest and why?
Tube fed. Harder to loose/damage the magazine, and its easier to carry single handed (no magazine hanging down at the balance point).
Although I agree on some points the above poster made about tube magazines, I must say that the box magazines used on most modern .22 rifles are garbage. I have seen tons of problems with poor fit, bent/improper angled feed lips, etc..... Pick your poison I reckon.
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On the OP, I own a 10/22 and have fired a 60 quite a bit. Both work well and you can't go wrong with either. I'd probably pick the 10/22 simply because there are so many accessories out there that you can customize it to your liking.
As long as we're throwing other options out, I'll mention an old Mossberg bolt action. They're extremely accurate and tough as nails. I have two, a 35A (single shot) and a 44B (magazine fed) and I'd take either over any of the modern .22s. They only downside is they are on the heavy side.
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As long as we're throwing other options out, I'll mention an old Mossberg bolt action. They're extremely accurate and tough as nails. I have two, a 35A (single shot) and a 44B (magazine fed) and I'd take either over any of the modern .22s. They only downside is they are on the heavy side.
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For a survival gun - light and easy to pack - I would carry my Ruger MKII Govt. I am as accurate out to normal small game hunting ranges as I would be with a small rifle. I'm comparing the pistol to the supper small 22's like the Cricket or AR-7 type of gun.
If it must be a rifle a 10/22 is hard to beat. I have a Ruger 10/22 that has had some work done and is super light. It is scoped. Besides being a useful gun it is a heck of a lot of fun. If the sun comes out, I'll add a pic.
tjg
If it must be a rifle a 10/22 is hard to beat. I have a Ruger 10/22 that has had some work done and is super light. It is scoped. Besides being a useful gun it is a heck of a lot of fun. If the sun comes out, I'll add a pic.
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I think you already have an excellent 22 rifle for general purposes and potentially a survival situation. One criticism of tubular fed 22 rifles is they are slow to reload and you can damage the "tube" easier and you're rifle becomes a single shot.
Personally, I think the tubular design is more appropriate for general shooting and survival. You just don't let the tube (with the spring) lie around like you might with detachable magazines.
If I were buying a new Model 60, I would get the version with stainless barrel and composite stock due to weather concerns. I might also buy another tubular insert from Marlin and keep it as a spare. I'd also get a semi-water proof carring case for the rifle that you can carry over your shoulder; something slim unless you have a scope on it which I would personally. But still have a water resistant case for it and not a big heavy pelican style case.
I have no problem with bolt action rifles being selected for a survival 22. Since I have a number of them, I might very well choose one if I had to head for the woods as opposed to my Ruger 10/22. The 10/22 would certainly be difficult to leave behind since I have a number of magazines for it. I don't own a Marlin Model 60 although I keep threatening to buy one. I have been buying bolt action 22 rifles of late rather than semi-autos.
As far as justifying more than one 22 rifle in your home, no problem. I felt one was enough when I was 18, but as soon as I started shooting more at targets... the justification comes pretty easily. With target shooting, you're searching for accuracy and it takes a few to settle down to a couple of accurate ones. Then you read about the new wizbang offering from XYZ manufacturer and you're back looking at buying another one. They are infectious. Probably more so than other rifles, but about the same as handguns if you like to shoot them.
Personally, I think the tubular design is more appropriate for general shooting and survival. You just don't let the tube (with the spring) lie around like you might with detachable magazines.
If I were buying a new Model 60, I would get the version with stainless barrel and composite stock due to weather concerns. I might also buy another tubular insert from Marlin and keep it as a spare. I'd also get a semi-water proof carring case for the rifle that you can carry over your shoulder; something slim unless you have a scope on it which I would personally. But still have a water resistant case for it and not a big heavy pelican style case.
I have no problem with bolt action rifles being selected for a survival 22. Since I have a number of them, I might very well choose one if I had to head for the woods as opposed to my Ruger 10/22. The 10/22 would certainly be difficult to leave behind since I have a number of magazines for it. I don't own a Marlin Model 60 although I keep threatening to buy one. I have been buying bolt action 22 rifles of late rather than semi-autos.
As far as justifying more than one 22 rifle in your home, no problem. I felt one was enough when I was 18, but as soon as I started shooting more at targets... the justification comes pretty easily. With target shooting, you're searching for accuracy and it takes a few to settle down to a couple of accurate ones. Then you read about the new wizbang offering from XYZ manufacturer and you're back looking at buying another one. They are infectious. Probably more so than other rifles, but about the same as handguns if you like to shoot them.
