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Another Hogan in better shape than the first one; overall finish not as pedestrian as the first, the blade is warped but not anywhere near as bad as the first purchase. But warped it is.

I'll send the first one back for a refund, I'll keep this 2nd one because I don't like to screw around with returns, etc.

I own plenty of long-bladed knives that aren't warped at all.

I'll never buy another GEC knife.
 
Why would you keep something you are clearly unhappy with? You should contact the dealer as well as GEC, they should be given a chance to make things right.
 
I have to wonder about the motivation of a person,who, upon receiving a less than satisfactory item of any type, would run straight to the computer, log in to an international collector's forum, and roundly bash the manufacturer. Without having first contacted the manufacturer or the dealer that said item was purchased from. Don't you think the manufacturer, or the dealer, would deserve a chance to make it right before being hammered in public? These knives are hand fit and hand finished. By Human Beings. They are not mass produced by programmed robots. Stuff happens. "You don't like to screw around with returns, etc" But one knife WILL be returned, but not the other? I think I understand why.
 
Sorry to hear about your trouble. I know it can be frustrating.
You may want to swap it for a non locking GEC. They do well with those, but for some reason have some trouble with lockbacks.

Or send it back for refund. No reason for you to keep a knife you're not happy with.
Good luck.
 
Ken44 said:
Sorry to hear about your trouble. I know it can be frustrating.
You may want to swap it for a non locking GEC. They do well with those, but for some reason have some trouble with lockbacks.

Or send it back for refund. No reason for you to keep a knife you're not happy with.
Good luck.
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Not all Ben Hogan's are Lock Backs. I don't believe the OP ever said which his are. But he did not complain about blade play.
 
rma100 said:
Not all Ben Hogan's are Lock Backs. I don't believe the OP ever said which his are. But he did not complain about blade play.
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Not sure why I automatically thought it was the lockback version. Maybe because I seldom hear of a problem with their other knives.
Good point about him not mentioning blade play, so I doubt it is the lockback version.
 
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I would like to see pictures, of both if possible.
Not doubting you, I have had a warped blade or two myself (none from GEC yet) I'm just curious how warped they are.

Speaking for myself, and that every other thread in Traditional seems to be about them in one way or another, I have not had a warped blade from them nor do I remember really reading about another (except yours). For you to have not one, but two Hogans with warped blades is pretty astounding. I have owned only maybe 12-15 GEC knives but none of them were Hogans, maybe it's an issue with just that model.

Maybe a dealer could chime in if they are aware that GEC had/has an issue with the Hogan pattern blades being warped?
 
FLymon said:
I have not had a warped blade from them nor do I remember really reading about another (except yours). For you to have not one, but two Hogans with warped blades is pretty astounding. I have owned only maybe 12-15 GEC knives but none of them were Hogans, maybe it's an issue with just that model.
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This guy(joeymoey) had two out of three Hogan's that had some blade warping... http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1127811-bought-a-GEC-Hogan?p=12870811#post12870811

Maybe it does have something to do with the long slim blade on that model. I have no idea really.

I've never seen a company put out a perfect production folder 100% of the time, and only CRK comes close to that(IMO).
From reading here, and having a few, I think GEC has less problems than any other traditional production knife company.

You may want to give it another try OP. I think you're just having a run of bad luck. I know its happend to me before when buying production knives, but I always wound up with a good one in the end.
 
Ken44 said:
This guy(joeymoey) had two out of three Hogan's that had some blade warping... http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1127811-bought-a-GEC-Hogan?p=12870811#post12870811

Maybe it does have something to do with the long slim blade on that model. I have no idea really.

I've never seen a company put out a perfect production folder 100% of the time, and only CRK comes close to that(IMO).
From reading here, and having a few, I think GEC has less problems than any other traditional production knife company.

You may want to give it another try OP. I think you're just having a run of bad luck. I know its happend to me before when buying production knives, but I always wound up with a good one in the end.
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That post was added after I read the original thread. 2 out of 3 warped blades?! Maybe it is just a Hogan issue, but it sounds like a heck of an issue.
 
FLymon said:
I would like to see pictures, of both if possible.
Not doubting you, I have had a warped blade or two myself (none from GEC yet) I'm just curious how warped they are.

Speaking for myself, and that every other thread in Traditional seems to be about them in one way or another, I have not had a warped blade from them nor do I remember really reading about another (except yours). For you to have not one, but two Hogans with warped blades is pretty astounding. I have owned only maybe 12-15 GEC knives but none of them were Hogans, maybe it's an issue with just that model.

Maybe a dealer could chime in if they are aware that GEC had/has an issue with the Hogan pattern blades being warped?
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I am an Authorized Factory Distributor of GEC Knives. I have handled and sold quite a few #65 Ben Hogans. I have never had one returned, nor have I ever had a complaint from a customer that purchased THIS pattern. Slip Joint or Lock Back. That is my experience.
 
I agree with sending it back. No sense keeping it of you are not happy.

I also wonder why the dealer would allegedly send out a second defective knife? I hope they would have checked the replacement before sending it out. If not I'd find someone else to give my money to after returning the second one. Plenty of reputable GEC dealers here on BladeForums.
 
There are too many details missing here, making this seem suspect. The outlook matches the username.
 
I have heard of others complaining about the crink in the #65 blade before. It is not a functional issue, nor is the blade warped. They crink blades to make them fit where they want them to fit in the frame; generally to have two blades on opposite ends of the same spring to play nicely. On very long blades if they need to crink the blade in the final stages to fit the frame nicely, as they do with many blades on many frames, it is very pronounced due to the length.

These blades are stamped out and worked on by hand from there on out. Thus, the tolerances are so tight that a 1/1000' shaved the wrong place on the tang or backspring will move the tip exponentially further. It would not show up if lasers and automated equipment with zero tolerances were doing the work; but they are not. I have talked to Bill about this issue before and it is essentially a cosmetic issue from a factory that is not equipped for every piece to be a work of art in all aspects. I have only heard of it on #65's, but not on all hogans - and it probably is done on other large blades.

Personally on issues wherein they will most certainly lose money by breaking down a knife for a cosmetic fix; I wish they would just notify the selling dealer that they are refunding him and he needs to refund the buyer. But if you buy a pattern and have a problem with it, you should probably not buy another of the same pattern expecting something different. Unless you call the seller and have them specifically check it for you.

If you enjoy quality slipjoints it would be a shame to walk away because of a dislike for the hogan frame. But if you already have decided you don't like GEC; do yourself, the dealer, and the factory a favor and abandon the brand. It is your money and you should decide what is acceptable.
 
Thanks Mike, and Bob.
Crinked is different than warped. That's why I wanted to see pictures.
 
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