3 Mineral County school administrators arrested

Y'know, I don't understand something about sexual abuse of children and/or women. I'm the type of father that if anything happened to one of my kids, and I found out about it, at any time, regardless of how old they were or whether time has passed (if any) or basically any circumstance that I found out someone had messed with my little girl or my little boy (who becomes 2 years old in about 5 minutes), well, I would hunt them down and they would never be able to hurt another human being like that again.

I inherited this simple way of life from my family. So, what I don't understand is that I know other parent's love their kids just as much, and so why aren't more pedifiles and rapists just, ummm, dealt with violently and with an extreme lack of mercy? Why do they even make it to jail (if even punished)?
 
Good question. Not a father so I suppose I can't know. But if anybody hurt my girlfriend, they had better hope the cops find them first. I sympathize with you view here. Maybe the system's effective enough to protect them, too.

Namaarie
 
Regardless of what happens to us in childhood, however horrible, we have a responsibility not to hurt others when we are grown ups.
That is why I do not understand pedophilia. I don't really give a damn why they're attracted to children, just wonder how in heck they could indulge themselves and be brutal?
Child molestors are still held in contempt in prison. That's good.

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On a side note, I wish all of you who hope to hunt down and kill the evil that might hurt your family every success. Maybe we'd have less evil if this happened more often. All I see though, is good Dad's in jail, unable to raise their children, because of revenge.



munk
 
munk said:
... I wish all of you who hope to hunt down and kill the evil that might hurt your family every success...
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That "might" hurt your family?
You are giving your blessings to a preemptive strike against what individual interpretation deems might be harmful?

That sounds like anarchy. Not that I'm opposed to anarchy, but is that really what you mean?
 
Ben, I either mispoke or 'might' was not used in the meaning you are interpreting. Hunting down and killing people who have harmed your loved ones can harm your loved ones more.



munk
 
Munk, you raise a good point. The system does not condone vigilante violence. And there's the possibility that I'd get the wrong person. Pray that this never becomes an issue!! :( :(

I still say that best way to protect from violent crime against loved ones is to generally know where they are and be prepared to defend your home. Also, live in a death penalty state. Mine is not, so I must simply pray that as many murderers in Iowa as possible are guilty of Federal charges. I believe that due process of law is accurate enough to impose death sentence. Disagree if you want, but I feel there's nothing wrong with this.

Namaarie
 
If you can confront evil while it occurs and win, that is the very best intrinsic justice. I'm not a martial arts guy, and the 'winning' is problematic. I am a very good shot and have a cool head under pressure.


I wanted to say to you, all of you who would defend your loved ones so vehemently- I don't know that yours isn't a kind of ego, of self indulgence. Certainly, confronting evil is neccesary in a healthy society. Hunting down and dealing out your own brand of justice is a different thing. But I like people like you. I think you're the best. I wish Semper fi was reading this. And Pappy.


munk
 
Defend them BEFORE something bad happens!
Take all that protective energy and train, train, train!
Teach, arm, and protect.
 
Thanks for calling me on what I said. Let me expand. I mean that if something like this happened to a loved one, I know that I'd be absolutely filled with sadness and rage, but I don't know how I'd react. I realize that such a violence in a rage is an unhealthy thing, but I've never been there, so I don't know how I'd handle it. I'd rather not speculate, honestly. :(

As I sit here, however, I have substantial confidence in our law enforcement system, as far as investigation is concerned. But for home defense, I believe that self-reliance is only pragmatic. Surely you agree, Munk.

I must concede that you said it right when you called what we discussed a sort of ego. Hunting down the murderers is a romantic thought at best. I believe the point was, however, that many people like to believe in taking care of one's own. On further reflection, I believe very strongly in due process of law. But one cannot know what they would do until it occured.

Namaarie
 
But for home defense, I believe that self-reliance is only pragmatic. Surely you agree, Munk.
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I don't have to agree or disagree- it is the law. All States have a Castle Clause, (unless a liberal one dumped theirs recently) and federal courts have ruled time and time again that it is not the legal responsibility of law enforcement to protect you from crime. This means you must for no one else will. What's that tag line? "Dial 9-11 and DIE."

There is a moral imperative that evil be met and confronted. Defending your home with lethal force meets this and can dispense an intrinsic justice not available in the System.

You've just met me, but I trust this gives you some idea of where I'm coming from, and the state of arms in my household.

edit: Actually, I don't believe in 'due process of law' in the sense I have any faith in its ability to find justice. But I do know if a Good Guy from this forum hunts down the sick bast--d that hurt his loved one, then he'll be the one in prison, while his children and wife have no father and husband with them.
That is the sickest of all. IT makes you mad, but I can't see anything to do about it.
 
Well-put. I wasn't aware of the Castle Clause. Very interesting. Just hardens my standpoints.

Also, I don't know what percentage of America shares our definition of justice. Surely the scenario you described in the edit is a gross failure of justice.

Justice is a very elusive thing. We all have a sense of it (or should) but it tends to vary widely. Like so many other things in life, I believe this to have no clear answer, applicable to all cases.

BTW, this thread sure stayed on topic! Don't remember if we *stayed* on topic, but I do think we're on it. Three pages. :) We should be proud!

Namaarie
 
namaarie said:
BTW, this thread sure stayed on topic! Don't remember if we *stayed* on topic, but I do think we're on it. Three pages. :) We should be proud!

Namaarie
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Nam, justice is a point of view. As to the amount of pages one is on it depends on how you have your computer layed out. For me this is Page-2 as I "see" 40 posts a page, saves time.:rolleyes:
And as to topic, well this is the original post by Rusty....:p ;) :D

Rusty said:
The Mineral County High School principal and a coach/backup administrator were arrested on sexual misconduct charges this Monday ( 11/22 ). A third administrator filling in was arrested on similar but separate charges Wednesday
( 11/24 ).

Three weeks earlier the three incumbents ( of five members ) running for re-election to the school board all lost.

Some time back the County's District Attorney resigned rather than place himself inside the county where pending drunk driving/drunk on the job charges were awaiting him. He died two months later of a head-on collision with a garbage truck on a divided highway.

If you haven't guessed, our new DA is a woman.

Happy Thanksgiving!
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good comments, and I understand what you mean, Munk.

I'm with DIJ, train hard and prevent trouble before it happens, if we can.
 
As I said in the Yucca Mountain thread, pedophiles don't deserve to be placed in the same class as congressmen and senators. Congresscritters are destined to be placed at least two rings further down in Dante's hell than pedophiles.
 
The bad thing is that the Congress type will probably caucus and cut deals with the Devil (like they do now) and be in charge down there. After all...they have the experience.
 
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