$300 MTECHS??!!

Frotier76 said:
For starters I'm not your 'pal'.Second you made time to have this conversation by replying back.If I don't like what someone says I ignore it and dismiss their viewpoint.So your dramatic reaction comes off very 'snowflake' in my book.

I don't feel it's "aggressive" at all to point out that JUNK is not restricted to low price tags anymore.Crappy grinds,blade play,weak lock up...it exists on any brand made anywhere..at any price.
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I've moved on already.
 
Frotier76 said:
GOOD BOY...WALK ON.
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I suspect this landed you on quite a few ignore lists. You scored +5 internet points though. :thumbsup:

I've stated this before: When you pay $200 for a Benchmade 940 you're getting more than just a knife. You're getting the reassurance from an industry icon that it's a quality tool and that should any problem arise, they'll take care of it.

Blade play is easy to resolve yourself as is a wonky bevel, though I agree they shouldn't exist on a $200 knife. If that Ti framelock from M-Tech developed lock rock would you trust them to take care of it? I wouldn't. I also wouldn't want to ship my knife off to China for repairs.

Of course M-Tech makes "solid" knives. Liability sort of dictates that they do. If they snapped shut all the time from lock failures M-Tech would be swimming in lawsuits and wouldn't be long for this world.

Being "solid" doesn't mean it isn't junk. Sure, they're $15 and didn't lop off your fingers, but when compared to a $10 Kershaw Injection or a $7 Opinel it's still most assuredly junk.

Would you buy a $300,000 car from Daewoo, a $10,000 bedroom set from Walmart's Mainstays brand or a $1000 pair of shoes from PayLess? Of course not. Regardless of materials used, those brands simply aren't know for creating quality products. Very few people are going to risk high-end money on a product from a low-end company.


I'll give them one thing: At least they're not claiming it's made in a state of the art, ninja protected cyber facility in central Texas. They also haven't sued a blogger for calling them a snake in the grass. ;)
 
xKaidoh said:
I hate to say it, but this actually looks pretty nice. If it wasn't $300 I would be tempted to try it...
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This very knife is available on one of the big chinese retail sites. The only change is the mtech logo. So this is in the same category as TwoSun and the other fleeting chinese brands. It's just doubled in price and rebranded with a LESS trusted name.
 
T.L.E. Sharp said:
I suspect this landed you on quite a few ignore lists. You scored +5 internet points though. :thumbsup:

I've stated this before: When you pay $200 for a Benchmade 940 you're getting more than just a knife. You're getting the reassurance from an industry icon that it's a quality tool and that should any problem arise, they'll take care of it.

Blade play is easy to resolve yourself as is a wonky bevel, though I agree they shouldn't exist on a $200 knife. If that Ti framelock from M-Tech developed lock rock would you trust them to take care of it? I wouldn't. I also wouldn't want to ship my knife off to China for repairs.

Of course M-Tech makes "solid" knives. Liability sort of dictates that they do. If they snapped shut all the time from lock failures M-Tech would be swimming in lawsuits and wouldn't be long for this world.

Being "solid" doesn't mean it isn't junk. Sure, they're $15 and didn't lop off your fingers, but when compared to a $10 Kershaw Injection or a $7 Opinel it's still most assuredly junk.

Would you buy a $300,000 car from Daewoo, a $10,000 bedroom set from Walmart's Mainstays brand or a $1000 pair of shoes from PayLess? Of course not. Regardless of materials used, those brands simply aren't know for creating quality products. Very few people are going to risk high-end money on a product from a low-end company.


I'll give them one thing: At least they're not claiming it's made in a state of the art, ninja protected cyber facility in central Texas. They also haven't sued a blogger for calling them a snake in the grass. ;)
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I thinking you were overlooking my viewpoint slightly.I'm not for Master Cutlery trying to become a several hundred knife brand.I'm simply stating I liked what they did with a $25 Elite Tactical knife in my thoughts expressed...it's nicer than what you see that's strangely sporting great reviews on Amazon.

Regarding Opinel...not a fan.The Kershaw Injection? that was made by M-Tech.Within 5 seconds of looking at one you can tell it's one of the relabeled MTech models...Master Cutlery has been using that exact pivot screw shape/design for the past 15 years.It's a bit silly for you to say 'MTech is junk' when you're praising one:rolleyes:.Kershaw has been using Master Cutlery for a few years now on under $20 knives.
 
Frotier76 said:
I thinking you were overlooking my viewpoint slightly.I'm not for Master Cutlery trying to become a several hundred knife brand.I'm simply stating I liked what they did with a $25 Elite Tactical knife in my thoughts expressed...it's nicer than what you see that's strangely sporting great reviews on Amazon.

Regarding Opinel...not a fan.The Kershaw Injection? that was made by M-Tech.Within 5 seconds of looking at one you can tell it's one of the relabeled MTech models...Master Cutlery has been using that exact pivot screw shape/design for the past 15 years.It's a bit silly for you to say 'MTech is junk' when you're praising one:rolleyes:.Kershaw has been using Master Cutlery for a few years now on under $20 knives.
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Lol. I'd love to see this "exact pivot screw" on an MTech.
 
While I'm working on this list here's the Kershaw Lifter in MTech's factory model form...

MTA842SW

Notice for Kershaw they added the blocking disc and changed the pocket clip design for Kershaw's logo.But it does incorporate MTech's assisted opening system not Kershaw's...same pivot screw.Copy and paste and see for yourself..
 
Frotier76 said:
While I'm working on this list here's the Kershaw Lifter in MTech's factory model form...

MTA842SW

Notice for Kershaw they added the blocking disc and changed the pocket clip design for Kershaw's logo.But it does incorporate MTech's assisted opening system not Kershaw's...same pivot screw.Copy and paste and see for yourself..
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No need to be a jackass to people over the internet for different opinions. Btw I copied that name into google as Mtech mta842sw and nothing came up.

Mtech like many other chinese brands will put their name on generic knives coming out of many Chinese factories. It is also possible they put their name on a clone of a Kershaw.

I don’t know which Chinese factory makes Kershaw’s chinese knives. Is it possible that the same factory is producing knives for Kershaw and Mtech? Definitely. However it is also possibly not true.

Even if it were true typically the knives that go out to kershaw would have a totally different quality control level to the ones being produced for MTech.

WE knives are made in the same factory as cheap junky Wa Yeah knives. The products are on a totally different level. Is it possible Mtech will pull off the same move? Perhaps. However alot of these designs they are showing are rebrands of other original design chinese knives from companies like Fura and Ystart so I doubt it.

It would have been prudent for them to not include the Mtech name anywhere on this business venture. A name people tend to associate with junky knives you find collecting dust in a bong shop for 22.99$ (way overpriced but maybe someone who is high will buy it)
 
Lapedog said:
No need to be a jackass to people over the internet for different opinions. Btw I copied that name into google as Mtech mta842sw and nothing came up.

Mtech like many other chinese brands will put their name on generic knives coming out of many Chinese factories. It is also possible they put their name on a clone of a Kershaw.

I don’t know which Chinese factory makes Kershaw’s chinese knives. Is it possible that the same factory is producing knives for Kershaw and Mtech? Definitely. However it is also possibly not true.

Even if it were true typically the knives that go out to kershaw would have a totally different quality control level to the ones being produced for MTech.

WE knives are made in the same factory as cheap junky Wa Yeah knives. The products are on a totally different level. Is it possible Mtech will pull off the same move? Perhaps. However alot of these designs they are showing are rebrands of other original design chinese knives from companies like Fura and Ystart so I doubt it.

It would have been prudent for them to not include the Mtech name anywhere on this business venture. A name people tend to associate with junky knives you find collecting dust in a bong shop for 22.99$ (way overpriced but maybe someone who is high will buy it)
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The man said he wanted to see that exact pivot on an MTech...I'm giving him what he asked for...proof.
 
Frotier76 said:
Here's a couple more...

MX-827GN
MX-800GR
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Can you post pictures? Searching those doesn’t seem to show any one specific mtech knife. Rather they show a bunch of mtech and tacforce knives

Also just cause they use the same pivot doesn’t mean the knives are produced in the same factory or of similar quality.

It could mean any number of things from cloned features to both factories getting the screw premade from a third party source.
 
Lapedog said:
Can you post pictures? Searching those doesn’t seem to show any one specific mtech knife. Rather they show a bunch of mtech and tacforce knives

Also just cause they use the same pivot doesn’t mean the knives are produced in the same factory or of similar quality.

It could mean any number of things from cloned features to both factories getting the screw premade from a third party source.
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I don't have Photobucket set up but just copy and paste...the images come right up in google.
 
Frotier76 said:
I don't have Photobucket set up but just copy and paste...the images come right up in google.
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That’s what I’m doing. All that shows up if I copy just the name is coffee makers and aftermarket chinese motorcycle tail lights. If I put mtech at the front then paste then knives at the end all I get is a bunch of nonspecific mtech knives. Fixed blades, folders, karambits, not one specific mtech knife. So far I haven’t seen that injection pivot on any of those mtechs that came up but really it is a moot point.

There is always the possibility various chinese factories are ordering the same pivot from 3rd party companies making that pivot.

Anyway I don’t know what the arguement is about. Anyone being honest that has held a chinese kershaw and an mtech should be able to tell the vast difference in quality, irrespective of who made it.
 
Frotier76 said:
For starters I'm not your 'pal'
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:D Sorry I couldn't resist.

I can't help think this knife is like when a automaker or a watch company etc tries to make a luxury product just to show they have the technical skill to do so. It fails because the brand doesn't have the reputation, their demographic doesn't have the financial means to buy it, and there's too many other options out there at the same price. Don't believe me? Did you know that Timex actually made a solid gold model in the 60's? Or how Kia keeps trying to enter the luxury market.

The sad thing is 10 years from now people will be talking about what a great knife it was because very few people will have bought one.
 
benchwarmer380 said:
That one actually pulled up for me. Looks like a S&W that you'd see at a gun show. Like you, the other searches pull up a mystery bag of mtechs. I think they broke Google.


I need a shower.
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Best just jump into a bonfire. I don’t think water or soap will clean this one.

This topic has become rediculous. Imagine that a topic about 300$ mtechs going off the rails.
 
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