#35 Beer and Sausage Bar Tool Knife

Anybody else think this is more of a hobo knife than a hobo knife?

Hobos always have unkempt beards and most have refuse in them. Very useful especially if they are trying to clean up.

This doesnt have a spoon because you shouldnt enable the reason they are a hobo.

Most 40s are twist off but they still will get bottles that they will need the bottle opener.
 
knifeswapper said:
GEC has enough on its plate. I can understand why they do not need to police the dealer pricing. But, again, I feel like it does give GEC and her dealers a bit of a black eye when you set a minimum price - but no maximum.
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i am completely with you Mike and i will support YOU and some other dealers acting like you!
there are still good dealers out there, go find them.

my advice... talk to several dealers, some are in FB groups, some are here on BF, build up a good personal relation and find out how these dealers are.
most of them have an information or/ and reservation system or lists for reservation if you ask them, by mail.

good luck guys, knife lovers and knife nuts, i love these #35 B&S knives!
just one to go :-D
 
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knifeswapper said:
They do sell directly to eBay - which is perfectly fine in either instance.

A dealer can sell knives however they want. I run auctions from time to time with past runs in which there were some "S" models that showed up later or a couple SFO knives had to go back thru and didn't get back to me until way later. Sometimes I also get late personal preference returns or even buy collections if customers change directions (or simply give up the hobby). Always start at $1, no reserve.
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Not taking aim at you Mike as you are by no means the bad guy here, but I think that even if you start your auction at $1 it’s still flipping, as you are buying the knife in order to sell it for a profit that greatly exceeds the retail price.

It would be more transparent if all GEC dealers could make a bit more on each knife, but never be allowed to sell on Ebay.
 
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Free market, supply and demand, some folks might be in a tight spot with all the craziness going on lately, I personally can't fault them if they need to make a few bucks any way they can. And if you don't really want the unobtanium, there isn't anyone forcing you to buy it ;) In my mind it's all just a "situation". There is a world full of sharp things to get things done...
 
Camillus said:
Not taking aim at you Mike as you are by no means the bad guy here, but I think that even if you start your auction at $1 it’s still flipping, as you are buying the knife in order to sell it for a profit that greatly exceeds the retail price.

It would be more transparent if all GEC dealers could make a bit more on each knife, but never be allowed to sell on Ebay.
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As an economist, the market value IS the value. Retail is a suggestion. There, off my academic soapbox.
 
Camillus said:
Not taking aim at you Mike as you are by no means the bad guy here, but I think that even if you start your auction at $1 it’s still flipping, as you are buying the knife in order to sell it for a profit that greatly exceeds the retail price.
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Sure you're taking aim at me; but that's alright. You have selectively re-framed and limited my original statement to the point that I think I agree with your statement. Except for the fact that I have no idea or control over whether it exceeds retail price - which they have not from time to time. So I guess I just really agree with "even if you start your auction at $1 it’s still flipping" which actually applies to anyone selling a knife. Now that I think about it - selling knives for more than I paid for them is flipping. Crap; I'm a flipper....
 
I just dont agree with the low production numbers. Its what causes the outrageous aftermarket prices as well as cause flippers to buy a large portion of the supply.

its been mentioned the mustangs are also going to be low production numbers as well. I know of other manufacturers that are having difficulty keeping their production numbers up due to covid. Im not sure if that the same reason for gec making such limited numbers or if they are intentionally causing people to panic buy from fomo.
 
Mass1632 said:
I just dont agree with the low production numbers. Its what causes the outrageous aftermarket prices as well as cause flippers to buy a large portion of the supply.

its been mentioned the mustangs are also going to be low production numbers as well. I know of other manufacturers that are having difficulty keeping their production numbers up due to covid. Im not sure if that the same reason for gec making such limited numbers or if they are intentionally causing people to panic buy from fomo.
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The emboldened statement doesn't make a lot of sense. It doesn't profit GEC to sell fewer knives than there is demand for as a rule, since the profit from "flipping" the knife does not impact them as directly as selling 300, or 500, or even 1000 more knives manufactured in their factory. I imagine that the limitations on their runs are simply part of their own supply-demand chain for purchasing materials, paying employees, and managing storage and equipment repair. If they were a huge company they might have the capital to play psychological games to boost interest, but as a small company they have to consider basic economics more carefully, I'm sure.
 
Well if they made 1000 knives of a pattern with an oddity that put off people; ie, a comb. It would sit on shelves longer. No sense of urgency with such high numbers so therefore it would make sense to make less numbers to create the urgency so they dont sit on shelves. People will miss out but it wont bother gec or dealers because they wont have any leftovers.
 
Mass1632 said:
Well if they made 1000 knives of a pattern with an oddity that put off people; ie, a comb. It would sit on shelves longer. No sense of urgency with such high numbers so therefore it would make sense to make less numbers to create the urgency so they dont sit on shelves. People will miss out but it wont bother gec or dealers because they wont have any leftovers.
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I don't disagree with that logic, but I just think it is more reasonable to assume that their limitations are legitimate constraints rather than manipulation.
 
I just tried to snag an Ebony B&S - Holy cow! I don't think it lasted 30 seconds - there isn't even time to click confirm and I had everything pre-loaded. Sheesh.

At least I tried - no harm, no foul.
 
Same here, everything preloaded but i didn't hit accept terms and conditions. Apparently that was enough time to sell out.
 
I think every person needs to be in a position before they can start speculating as to the reasons for actions. It is easy to speculate; it is very difficult to have to make the 250 decisions that has to be made on every particular run. For example, early on in conversation with GEC they were thinking about just making one handle material on the B&S. But were very concerned due to its "uniqueness" that it may be a dog. And if your pattern limits your audience; what is the intelligent thing to do? Make more variations for the subset of the crowd that would want it. Now they know, BRRT is a hit.

GEC is going to work on knives 5 days a week, regardless of the pattern. It is much easier to work on the same pattern for months than to change it up after 1000 knives. Thus, if everything else was equal, they would not make shorter runs simply for their own benefit. They have been accused of limiting production to froth up the market for years. I don't understand it all; and frankly have stopped even trying.
 
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