4-Max?! USA Made, CPM-20CV, Cold Steel?! This can't be happening!

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So recently while browsing the forums, I had the Cold Steel 2015 lineup brought to my attention. I checked it out a couple days ago, and was interested in their updated models that use CTS-XHP (Recon 1, AK-47, etc). But today when I checked, I came across this.

http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/62RM/4-Max.aspx

The Cold Steel 4-Max. This knife immediately grabbed my attention, for four reasons.

1: CPM-20CV, I mean ya CTS-XHP is great but holy shit! CPM-20CV if I remember correctly is similar to M390 and CTS-204P, which have some of the best edge retention and stain resistance of any current knife steels. That excites me.

2: Titanium liners, not much needs to be said. It's Titanium, it's awesome.

3: USA Made. Yep that's right, in bold letters it says "100% made in the USA". I don't keep up with Cold Steel to much, but I believe this is their first 100% USA made knife. Which is AWESOME!

4: $600 MSRP, ya this doesn't make me happy. This is the anti-awesome :(

In closing, I think this knife is a great contender with some of the high end production knives (assuming it's not a limited edition). However, with that MSRP and the fact that Cold Steel doesn't have a lifetime warranty it just doesn't quite stack up to some other high end production knives. Think CRK, Strider, Hinderer, Microtech, etc. If this knife came with a lifetime warranty, had good F&F, and a street price of ~$400 I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

So what do you guys think?
 
oXObsidianXo said:
So recently while browsing the forums, I had the Cold Steel 2015 lineup brought to my attention. I checked it out a couple days ago, and was interested in their updated models that use CTS-XHP (Recon 1, AK-47, etc). But today when I checked, I came across this.

http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/62RM/4-Max.aspx

The Cold Steel 4-Max. This knife immediately grabbed my attention, for four reasons.

1: CPM-20CV, I mean ya CTS-XHP is great but holy shit! CPM-20CV if I remember correctly is similar to M390 and CTS-204P, which have some of the best edge retention and stain resistance of any current knife steels. That excites me.

2: Titanium liners, not much needs to be said. It's Titanium, it's awesome.

3: USA Made. Yep that's right, in bold letters it says "100% made in the USA". I don't keep up with Cold Steel to much, but I believe this is their first 100% USA made knife. Which is AWESOME!

4: $600 MSRP, ya this doesn't make me happy. This is the anti-awesome :(

In closing, I think this knife is a great contender with some of the high end production knives (assuming it's not a limited edition). However, with that MSRP and the fact that Cold Steel doesn't have a lifetime warranty it just doesn't quite stack up to some other high end production knives. Think CRK, Strider, Hinderer, Microtech, etc. If this knife came with a lifetime warranty, had good F&F, and a street price of ~$400 I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

So what do you guys think?
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I can't speak to the warranty, but I think you're going to see phenomenal F&F and a street price closer to $300 than $400 on this model.
 
There is no time limit associated with our warranty and there hasn't been for some time.
We stand by our products 100%
Any problems, let us know (805) 658-0180 - we're here to help :)

The 4-MAX was developed with Andrew to bridge the gap between production folders and custom knives.
It's made to his exact specifications right here in the USA.
It's an expensive knife, but it's CPM-20CV!
In our tests it was a tank. More than a few of our employees (myself included) starting saving their pay for this knife as soon as we saw the prototype.
 
Cold Steel Knives said:
There is no time limit associated with our warranty and there hasn't been for some time.
We stand by our products 100%
Any problems, let us know (805) 658-0180 - we're here to help :)

The 4-MAX was developed with Andrew to bridge the gap between production folders and custom knives.
It's made to his exact specifications right here in the USA.
It's an expensive knife, but it's CPM-20CV!
In our tests it was a tank. More than a few of our employees (myself included) starting saving their pay for this knife as soon as we saw the prototype.
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Good to hear that about your warranty. The last Cold Steel knife I bought was an original Ultra-Lock AK-47, and I seem to recall it had some paperwork that stated it was only warrantied for 1 year. Still have that knife, just wondering would it be covered by your new warranty policy?
 
If something managed to fail due to manufacturing defect I'm sure they'd stand behind it 110%. However you having had it so long I'm doubtful anything that manufacturer could have done would affect it now.

That said, I'm sure they'd consider anything on a case by case basis.
 
Cold Steel Knives said:
There is no time limit associated with our warranty and there hasn't been for some time.
We stand by our products 100%
Any problems, let us know (805) 658-0180 - we're here to help :)

The 4-MAX was developed with Andrew to bridge the gap between production folders and custom knives.
It's made to his exact specifications right here in the USA.
It's an expensive knife, but it's CPM-20CV!
In our tests it was a tank. More than a few of our employees (myself included) starting saving their pay for this knife as soon as we saw the prototype.
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Is this a limited run or full production model? That is, if you're free to say.
 
My experience with CS's basic line of folders has been excellent. Their fit and finish has been fantastic in my samples.

I don't expect anything less on this design.

Demko's designs are genius. This design, lock, handle material, titanium liners, and steel are a fantastic combo.

I expect this to be a winning combo!


The only thing it is missing is a thumb plate for waving on the draw!
 
Looks like a nice knife, but if the it runs anywhere near the $599.99 price tag, you could get a custom 4-Max from Andrew Demko for near that. Of course you would have to wait a few years, but in any case, I'm glad to see Cold Steel making some high end folders. I'm of big fan Demko and anything with a Triad lock.
 
I will also mention that in my experience Cold Steel's fit and finish has been better than any other knife company, even on their inexpensive models. Maybe I have had really good luck, but the quality/price ratio has been pretty mind blowing for me.
 
This is the high-end tank of a knife many have been waiting for. :thumbup: 2015 is looking like a great year for Cold Steel.
 
Cold steel- what dealers have this and when is it available? A custom 4max is sitting at that price point and this seems to fit a mid tech description. Will your dealers be putting these up for sale at $600?
 
Another question are these made by your factory or by demko!! Seems like a great idea but I'd love to know more about the source of the build. Great line up with the higher end materials guys!!!
 
A custom 4-MAX from Demko would be closer to $1000.00
That's one of the reasons we made this in collaboration with Andrew. It bridges that gap between production and custom.
Remember also, this is MSRP.
 
Bought two of your war craft tantos!!! All I am missing is a meat bicycle!!!! Very exciting seeing your line up!!!!
 
It's not available anywhere yet - it has just been announced but it is still on back order.
The production process is (for now) top secret.
 
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