4-Max?! USA Made, CPM-20CV, Cold Steel?! This can't be happening!

I'd just like to know when it comes out. Especially seeing it chop down meat filled tube socks!!!!!!!
 
I'm excited to see this knife. But then again I'm always excited to see cold steel's new offerings. They've always offered great value for me and the higher end stuff I've bought like the Nachez bowie, medium espada, and a few others have always been great. I've yet to have a CS fail on me. I respect the fact that Lynn is anything but P.C. And he refuses to let the question "what will the sheeple think?" define his line up. So with that said I can't wait to see how their new higher end stuff fairs.
 
Guys, I'm kind of a newb, and I have questions about this knife relative to other Cold Steel knives I've bought. I've only recently caught the bug, but in the last 4 months I've bought a Spartan, Recon1 XL Tanto, Kobun, Spike, Voyager LX Tanto and Voyager L Tanto. The thing that draws me to Cold Steel is the price/quality. This 4Max looks really awesome. I love the size, thickness, and blade shape. But I won't be able to afford one. Can you tell me why this one is so much more expensive? I'm sure that the royalties to Demko are a small part, but is the steel used here really that much more expensive than AUS8? Is there a chance that CS will offer this knife in a cheaper steel? Can anyone recommend another knife that is similar in shape, size, and thickness that is around the price of the models I mentioned above?

Obviously I know little about steel, and knives too. It won't offend me if you school me.

Thanks
 
Is the steel that much more expensive? No. Really only marginally more. All the materials combined (titanium liners, high end powder steel, G10 etc.) will certainly add a noticeable amount to the price but the majority of the price difference here can be accounted for by what we hope to be a high-level on the fit and finish of the knife and the fact that it is being made entirely in the US.

So high end materials, attention to detail, mid-tech level fit and finish (hopefully) and a US labor rate start to bring the price up. Then if we consider the target segment they are right in line with other mid-techs and high end production knives. Finally, most of the time with items like this you have to expect a lower sales volume as well, so in order to make this profitable for them this knife would need a higher profit margin.

Add all of these things up and boom $360 price tag on the street.

*Forgot to add, I doubt the will offer this in a cheaper steel. it is meant to be a luxury good, making a budget version would undercut this model. I would say that the cheaper version of this knife would be the American lawman so you could check that out. Otherwise the only knives I'm aware of that are of similar size and thickness would be lionsteel's folders, (SR1 and Lionspy both 4.5mm thick) and ZT approaches this thickness. Really for a cheap beefy folder cold steel's other offerings are your best bet. Check out the Rajah and the G-10 Espada. Both big and beefy.
 
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Costs get weird with steel and high end materials, particularly when paired with tight mechanical tolerances. Raw 20CV may not actually be that much more expensive, but it will have much, much greater resistance to abrasion. That means more time spent grinding, which translates to more man hours, more wear and tear on equipment and more resources lost when the inevitable happens and the odd blade gets screwed up. Same goes for titanium. Remember, labor is almost always the single largest expense in manufacturing, so things that take more time are often exponentially more expensive.
 
I'm in x1000
This along with my 204p all ti ad-10 Andrews building and I'll be set for two lifetimes.. Great job stepping it p CS.. I see a new force to be reckoned with in cutlery
 
compared to other offerings at the price point, this is a lot of knife for the money. At 9 oz I might skip this one unless I get some extra cash and want to check it out.
 
Does anyone know why they would choose to use 20CV instead of M4 or 3V in a knife this big and burly?
 
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What a blade, this is just the type of knife I was hoping to see from CS. And street price looks very reasonable for what you are getting.

If this is the success I think it will be, hope they come out with a smaller more pocket friendly version.
 
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