A forum in need

I saw this forum as a place collectors gathered to discuss custom knives when I first joined. It was apparent and I liked it. This is one of the only forums that I know of, where a large number of collectors hang out. Makers have many places to hang out and discuss.........Collectors are people too :D

The traffic here is huge and I've seen knife articles pop up in mags because of discussions that started here first.

I spend more time here than any other forum and feel that all this stuff lately will only make this a better place. Although I don't want to see a big change, it was doing pretty good before all this. Everybody doesn't have to agree all the time.

All we need, are more knife pictures :)
 
Don Hanson III said:
I saw this forum as a place collectors gathered to discuss custom knives when I first joined. It was apparent and I liked it. This is one of the only forums that I know of, where a large number of collectors hang out. Makers have many places to hang out and discuss.........Collectors are people too :D

The traffic here is huge and I've seen knife articles pop up in mags because of discussions that started here first.

I spend more time here than any other forum and feel that all this stuff lately will only make this a better place. Although I don't want to see a big change, it was doing pretty good before all this. Everybody doesn't have to agree all the time.

All we need, are more knife pictures :)
Click to expand...

Don, you get it! You have always gotten it! Your work is top tier and you arean't afraid to show it off!
 
I'm new here and never knew this forum exsisted until the post on shop talk, I agree with Don, lots of forums for makers to hang out and discuss. I came in hear hoping to gain more insite on what collectors wanted and liked in general. I didn't figure I would have to post to gain from this forum but could gather valuable info by just reading what was being said by the collectors about the knives they find most appealing. Les Robertson post yesterday was proof of that, all makers and collectors should read it.

I think possibly a simple list of rules so those that are new and want to hear collectors views on knives being produced know whats permitted in here . I don't think anyone wants to change this forum in any way that would cause collectors to start avoiding their own forum, if they did, I wouldn't come in here either. I do believe there's just been a failure to communicate, but that can be easily remedied.

Have a good day ;)

Bill
 
Here is my two cents, I love this forum and think we have spent to much time talking about what's wrong with it. It is great. Let's see how things go for awhile, if it's not broken don't fix it. What I think would be cool, is a sub called the Collector's Arena, where collectors could go and be collectors, that way when makers go and post their work there, they would know what to expect. Not that they should not still comment here, but there we could expect their unabashed opinions, which they could freely give. It could be real fun and thats why we are here. I would be the first maker to post there.
Sorry, now i must go to work but will check back later to see what you think ~
 
I enjoy this forum, and spend more time here than I should and have to limit it. With time being a premium I spend time mostly on conversations about knives or related chat.

I think that the forum is fine as it is, we need to have off topic conversations to get to know each other here on the forum, and this builds up the community here.

If there are topics that are not of my interest, or don't have the time, then I do my own moderating myself by reading through stuff I want to read. Sometimes when a topic is just not going right or has head south, then I go onto something else.

Its easy to spend too much time, so I limit it usually to an hour, by then I usually need to attend to something else anyways. Self moderating works for the most part.
 
D lisch said:
Here is my two cents, I love this forum and think we have spent to much time talking about what's wrong with it. It is great. Let's see how things go for awhile, if it's not broken don't fix it. What I think would be cool, is a sub called the Collector's Arena, where collectors could go and be collectors, that way when makers go and post their work there, they would know what to expect. Not that they should not still comment here, but there we could expect their unabashed opinions, which they could freely give. It could be real fun and thats why we are here. I would be the first maker to post there.
Sorry, now i must go to work but will check back later to see what you think ~
Click to expand...

I agree with your post D except for creating another sub-forum. As why should members that have been participating here for years and enjoy the format have to change because a few mostly new participants are intimidated to post here or are offended by the rare conflict over a negative post. As I said in another thread, IMO we should have a sticky or a line under the title stating the "rules of engagement" and stating what is not "acceptable conduct".
 
Bladeandbarrel said:
I see a very PC attitude creeping into this forum, mostly from irrelevant third parties who have never been active participants on this forum. I guess my question to you newly disgruntled is "why now?". Or have you just run out of other playgrounds to play in?
Click to expand...
What do you means by the "iirrelevant third parties who have never been active participants on this forum"?

Are you talking about makers like Tai Goo?

Or .. are you talking about collectors like me?

Or .. are you talking about people in general who some times doesn't agree with some of your opinion?

Would you please let us know exactly whom do you means by "irrelevant third parties who have never been active participants on this forum" .. I'm not that smart :cool:
 
Don Hanson III said:
I saw this forum as a place collectors gathered to discuss custom knives when I first joined. It was apparent and I liked it. This is one of the only forums that I know of, where a large number of collectors hang out. Makers have many places to hang out and discuss.........Collectors are people too :D

The traffic here is huge and I've seen knife articles pop up in mags because of discussions that started here first.

I spend more time here than any other forum and feel that all this stuff lately will only make this a better place. Although I don't want to see a big change, it was doing pretty good before all this. Everybody doesn't have to agree all the time.

All we need, are more knife pictures :)
Click to expand...


Good post Don.

However, there does seem to be some confusion (and debate) over the intent and purpose of this forum,... myself included.

This is just a suggestion,... why not change to name to "Custom and Handmade Knife Collecting"?
 
Names at the bottom of this page right now. 6 makers and 2 collectors. :)

Tai, I see what you are saying but I don't think we need to change the name. We just need to discuss custom knives and post as many photos as we can. Collectors and makers hanging out together.

It's all good :D
 
I've always made a point of reading this forum along with the Maker's areas, I feel that I've learned a lot about what collectors want from makers.

As far as critiquing a knife I post, I don't care, I've got thicker skin than a gator and I wouldn't have posted a knife unless I wanted feedback.

edited to add:

This reminds me of a conversation I had when I was a bouncer... bunch of Harleys pull up and park outsided the bar, guys head into the bar, owner heads out and tells me we have to do something about the bikers inside and that the Harleys will give the place a bad image. I pointed out that the cheapest bike there was about $30k and that there was at least $250k worth of bikes parked out front. That seemed to change his opinion of the people inside...
 
I'm with Don here.

I've only been on BF for about a year, but have enjoyed it and learned tons from collectors discussions.

Customs and Handmades is fine as is,(usually, nothings perfect), and only needs more collectors and makers posting the best knives for comment and discussion.

Rain and thunderstorms here today, I'm going back out into the shop and rough grind a 10" W-2 Recurve.

John
 
Kevin Jones said:
I agree with your post D except for creating another sub-forum. As why should members that have been participating here for years and enjoy the format have to change because a few mostly new participants are intimidated to post here or are offended by the rare conflict over a negative post. As I said in another thread, IMO we should have a sticky or a line under the title stating the "rules of engagement" and stating what is not "acceptable conduct".
Click to expand...

How about a "check your ego at the door" policy? Seems most of the current conflagrations are due to ego-centric behavior on both sides of the equation.
 
Don Hanson III said:
Tai, I see what you are saying but I don't think we need to change the name. We just need to discuss custom knives and post as many photos as we can. Collectors and makers hanging out together.

It's all good :D
Click to expand...

That's the way I feel.

I am still wondering what moderators could do to make this a better forum.
 
Excellent post Don. Whatever it is you get out of the forums you have given much more - and it is appreicated by a great many. I have been encouraged to see relatively new members such as Bill, John and David posting here as well - thanks for participating. And I am grateful to that Wheeler dude for extending and invitation on the makers forum for more of those guys n gals to look in here more often. Already seeing new faces and that's definitely good. :thumbup:

I know some makers have expressed the view that they want nothing to do with this place, and while I feel that is most regrettable, I respect their choice. You can't please everyone.

Overall I see no need for wholesale change of any kind. Let's just talk knives and be courteous and respectful while we do so. No need to overcomplicate things. And as Don said - post more pics!

Roger
 
....and for my part it ain't broke, never was broke, and surely doesn't need fixin'. I agree with Don. Without naming names, because you damn sure know who you are we have seen a select few imagine a problem or problems and blow it all up and out of proportion. You can micro analyze this thing to death and along with it the death of a great forum....or at least the death of the greatness. Someone posted recently that he hoped everything would return to normal in a few days, or weeks....well me too, but if the "scab keeps getting picked" it's never going to heal properly. Now I've noticed that some of the forum members seem to have difficulty understanding the meaning of posts due to either political correctness or hyper word smithing abilities, so let me make it clear for those of you "In Rio Linda"

Quit your bitching and nit picking and enjoy the knives and one another and be at least as civil as you would at home with guests.

I guess I should put in a disclaimer. I am not a knife maker...I am a sheath maker. I am not a collector...I am an accumulator. I am not a photographer, but I enjoy good pictures. I love to learn something new from someone who knows what they are talking about. Thank You

Paul
 
sheathmaker said:
....and for my part it ain't broke, never was broke, and surely doesn't need fixin'.

Quit your bitching and nit picking and enjoy the knives and one another and be at least as civil as you would at home with guests.

Thank You

Paul
Click to expand...

Amen.

Paul ( the other Paul) Kessler
 
RogerP said:
Overall I see no need for wholesale change of any kind. Let's just talk knives and be courteous and respectful while we do so. No need to overcomplicate things. And as Don said - post more pics!
Roger
Click to expand...

I couldn't agree more, Roger and Don. I love what I have experienced with this forum over the last year and would hate for it to change. I thing all this discussion is really just a bit overboard (though I respect everyones point of view and am glad its being discussed). Its just that it does not need to be so complicated. Custom knife collectors would have nothing to collect with out makers and we need them here IMO. I would personally love to see MORE pictures being posted and less politics. I am here to learn about and further my knife collecting. I would love to hear more honest opinions about knife makers and dealers but obviously this could hurt some feelings since its a public forum. In order to "do my homework" I think it is necessary to hear different opinions during the critiquing of a knife.
 
I didn't suggest we "fix" anything. I didn't suggest we need moderators.
I suggested moderation in tone from newcomers and old. This is a special place.
This is the unexpurgated, unvarnished truth forum. I would like to keep it that way.

I am as guilty as anyone of jumping on people from time to time as I have a hard time suffering "fools" or people whose goal in life is to antagonize and obfuscate.

I suggest deep breaths and lets get back to well crafted knives, whether they are $200 or $20,000.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top