A knife for a new Marine.

Because privates are sneaky bastards who will appropriate anything that is not nailed down or too heavy to lift.


Why use a term like "appropriate"? It is STEALING! Calling it anything less is not appropriate.

I thought the military teaches you things like honor, to obey oders and to fight for and defend your comrads.

Shouldn't stealing from another fellow serviceman have a servere penatlty, like death?

I never been in the military. No need to defend against some country when you can't even get along with those who you are supposed to trust your life to. No thanks. Not difference from a thug on the street breaking into your car or robbing your house.
 
Why use a term like "appropriate"? It is STEALING! Calling it anything less is not appropriate.

I thought the military teaches you things like honor, to obey oders and to fight for and defend your comrads.

Shouldn't stealing from another fellow serviceman have a servere penatlty, like death?

I never been in the military. No need to defend against some country when you can't even get along with those who you are supposed to trust your life to. No thanks. Not difference from a thug on the street breaking into your car or robbing your house.
Bad apples are in every group on earth. Being in the military doesn't magically turn someone into a knight in shining armor.

Most guys in the service I would say are good people and do the right thing. There are shit bags every where though.

I moved around a lot while active duty and things get lost while moving. In general soldiers and marines are at high risk for just losing things. Try having a 18+ pockets carrying a crap load of weight and items and you'll see how easy it is to not notice a dropped or misplaced item. Not even counting stressful situations and intense movements that require our full attention because more is at stake than losing a pocket knife.

I don't like your posts tone about our men and women who spend years of their life doing things that they feel betters our country.
 
Bad apples are in every group on earth. Being in the military doesn't magically turn someone into a knight in shining armor.

Most guys in the service I would say are good people and do the right thing. There are shit bags every where though.

I moved around a lot while active duty and things get lost while moving. In general soldiers and marines are at high risk for just losing things. Try having a 18+ pockets carrying a crap load of weight and items and you'll see how easy it is to not notice a dropped or misplaced item. Not even counting stressful situations and intense movements that require our full attention because more is at stake than losing a pocket knife.

I don't like your posts tone about our men and women who spend years of their life doing things that they feel betters our country.


I think what is lacking for these "bad apples" is proper motivation.
 
Bad apples are in every group on earth. Being in the military doesn't magically turn someone into a knight in shining armor.

Most guys in the service I would say are good people and do the right thing. There are shit bags every where though.

I moved around a lot while active duty and things get lost while moving. In general soldiers and marines are at high risk for just losing things. Try having a 18+ pockets carrying a crap load of weight and items and you'll see how easy it is to not notice a dropped or misplaced item. Not even counting stressful situations and intense movements that require our full attention because more is at stake than losing a pocket knife.

I don't like your posts tone about our men and women who spend years of their life doing things that they feel betters our country.

Like he said. One man in my company told me he killed a guy in civilian life for "messing with my girl." I thought this was just a tall tale until one day some Army CID agents came around to arrest him. This was along time ago when there was still a draft and all kinds of guys (men only then) were doing their two year tours of duty. In addition to the murderer, we had an opera singer, the son of a billionaire building contractor, a West Virginia mountaineer, an Arkansas farmer (all guys from Arkansas were called "Arkansas," for some reason), and quite an assortment from all walks of life and parts of the country, and to my knowledge, nobody got robbed. We all got along just fine, including the murderer, while he was still with us. The only thing I ever lost was, of all things, my dog tags, on my last day of active duty.
 
I would also recommend a Leatherman Wave or if you are leaning towerds a folder consider a Cold Steel Code 4. Strong lock, razor sharp, thin profile, light weight and won’t break the bank.
 
A most excellent gesture Max!!
Got one of these for you brother....:thumbsup:
Joe

OP can PM me if interested. I have a clean PM2 barely used, s30v steel and digi-camo handles. I would be honored to gift that to a young marine.
 
Why use a term like "appropriate"? It is STEALING! Calling it anything less is not appropriate.

I thought the military teaches you things like honor, to obey oders and to fight for and defend your comrads.

Shouldn't stealing from another fellow serviceman have a servere penatlty, like death?

I never been in the military. No need to defend against some country when you can't even get along with those who you are supposed to trust your life to. No thanks. Not difference from a thug on the street breaking into your car or robbing your house.

Good grief. If the world was full of people like you seem to have thought the military was full of, there wouldn't be a need for a military. Just like anywhere else, the military is full of normal people. Some of them are upstanding, conscientious men and women to whom their duty and honor is the most important thing they have. Some of them are total shitbirds. Most of them fall somewhere in between.
 
I always heard there was only one thief in the army...
 
It's not steeling when it was issued to another unit. it's" liberating " service members are very good at liberating, besides they should have been keeping a eye on it:cool:
Also every time something is missing it was "stolen " when in fact some stuff just gets lost.
 
Multi Tool. Marine saying "Gear adrift is a gift." At least that is what we were told when running classes for them at Camp Pendleton; However, when they left gear in the classroom, they always came back for it, and when advise it had been a "Gift" to us, always disagreed with their own saying. John
 
My nephew who just finished his 4+ years in the marines has been gifted by me...a leather-man, izula 2, spyderco salt (great in Japan), Emerson Gentlemen Jim, ScrapYard Skinner...and something else I'm forgetting. He ended up using cheapos more because he was worried about damaging the "nice gifts" but I was glad he had quality gear.
 
as a retired serviceman, give him the $100. a $100 knife will either spend its time in the bottom of his seabag or get stolen. if you have to give him a knife, a Gerber multitool will work, although he may be issued one. a knife is used to cut packing straps, open cardboard boxes, and clean your nails. using a knife in combat is plan zz after the previous 51 plans have not worked.
as far as liberating equipment from better equipped units, the Catholic marines in Chesty Puller's battalion on Guadalcanal, were told to attend services on the beach and given a list of equipment to be obtained from army supply areas before returning.
scott usn ret.
 
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Thanks, I definitely planned on going.

I attended my son's boot camp graduation at Parris Island. Even managed to get a motel room on the base (there are a few). Early the first morning, I saw my son leading the "moto run" - they took turns going out front and blocking cross street traffic.

Afternoon before the graduation, they had free time. We brought in food from a deli and fed him roast beef sandwiches and good stuff like that and just hung out. Quite an experience.
 
Maximus83 was kind enough to give my nephew a pm2. I received it today and man it looks great. It looks new, well centered, and has even bevels. It's everything he said it was and more. He also shipped it out very fast, it arrived when he said it would. He's a great guy and a great guy to deal with.

Now when our new Marine graduates he'll have a great looking pm2 and a new leatherman wave . He should be ready for anything.

I'll be sending the pm2 off to get the USMC emblem etched on the blade as soon as I find someone who does it. I'll post some pics when it's done.

Thanks for all the help everyone, and a special thanks to maximus83 for his generosity.
 
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I still have (somewhere??) a nice custom folder that my brother sent to me for my son when he was a Marine in Iraq. Unfortunately, my boy didn't get it before he was killed in combat. So it goes sometimes.
 
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