A knife for life

Innovation when it comes to cutting is an illusion that is attributed to spyderco.
Spyderco did not come up with anything new. The Persian is a Persian and the Chinook is a Persian and all of the other designs have been invented and thought of by others.

So Spyderco is about utilisation and innovation? You think so?
 
Spyderco is about utility in that their knives are generally designed around a task without reference to some traditional styling.

They are about innovation in making the opening hole, pocket clip, and serrated blades a major factor in everyday carry folders.
 
So is the drop point rancher knife that does everything not innovation?
Wasn’t it made for a purpose?
 
what inovation?

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sharpmaker said:
So is the drop point rancher knife that does everything not innovation?
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When it was introduced yes, if you make one now, no. Innovations in addition to the above mentioned ones were the Sharpmaker, the various locks, the extreme blade and grip styles on some blades, and the constant introduction of new steels.

-Cliff
 
sharpmaker, would you mind getting back to making coherent statements, rather than blurting out a few words with no noticeable context? What do you mean by "what inovation?" and "Cliff Stamp, Pedigree man"?
 
Esav Benyamin said:
What do you mean by "what inovation?"
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That was pretty clear as he stated there is nothing new, thus he is arguing there was no innovation from Spyderco in the knife industry as everything has been seen before.

-Cliff
 
Cliff, I read better than you write. I already answered his "innovation" question before he asked it. But if you can't follow a conversation, go ahead and make up one of your own.

Oh, right, you generally do ...
 
I think I am fascinated with cliff Stamp.
No disrespect meant but I know he means business and I disagree with him.
:)
 
Have you ever seen an add by Benchmade or Chris Reeve Knives like that?

Have you ever seen such markiting?
by the way, that is a very old add. :)
 
Ok, is there a 'Block' feature to stop posts of 'What is the best...'? After reading post after post, they seem to end up argumentative and the few who post genuinely objective answers, are needles in the haystack. I like to learn new things by reading, but seeing the same thing over and over....:yawn: :(
 
Really, there are alot of good knives out there. For many folks a cheap, chinese made folder bought in a convenience store can be made to last a lifetime if it is taken care of and using a knife to pry up a manhole cover won't descriminate against a sebenza or benchmade when the blade is damaged.

I like knives. I like quality. I like performance. I like technology. So I like pricier knives like the sebenza. I have quite a few knives that could qualify as lifetime EDC's if taken care of. Spyderco , Benchmade, CRK are all great companies to choose a folder to carry for life , if that really is what you're looking for and not perhaps, a justification for spending more than you feel comfortable with for a knife you just want.
 
First let me say that I think the Sebenza is the best production folder overall.

But knife fanatics like us are vulcans like Mr. Spock--we often do illogical and irrational things.
We often choose that are not the best.

I just traded for a Schrade Old Timer 6OT (thanks again--you know who you are).
It is heavy, a two-hand opener, has no pocket-clip, and has below average steel (420 or 440A), but I like it better than some of my Sydercos and Benchmades.

Knowing what's BEST but choosing something else instead is nothing more than being human.

If Chris Reeve sold his Sebenzas for $5.00 each we would still be looking and buying other knives.

Allen.
 
To say the competition is between BM and CRK would be wrong. As far as hard user knives go, I'd take a Spyderco over either company ANY day, because they're inexpensive and primarily their blades are designed much better for slicing whereas folders like Benchmades tend to be a little spine-thick. Some people need a lot of thickness, but I tend to think that most folder use is slicing more than chopping/batoning/prying. BUT, I think the reason that many, including admittedly myself, carry Benchmades instead of Spyderco's is that while a Spydie may be more practical, efficient, and lightweight, knife fans tend to want ergonomics, finish and...axis locks :D But I think there's a lot of variety in the knife community, even if Benchmades are considered high-end production and CRK to be "elite". But while these are thought to be the some of the highest in fit and finish, there are many other brands such as Lochsa. Al Mar, Buck (NOBODY can deny that the 110 is like fixed blade when open), Camillus, Kershaw, and other production companies/custom makers that have very well established names.
 
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