A lot different than it started.

Larry Hensley

Larry Hensley

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This knife started out as something totaly different than it is now. I started fixing problems and kept making new ones along the way. so my question for ya'll is what do you think of how it looks now and any ideas or suggestions.

I was gonna say it can't get any worse but I bet that isnt true HA HA.

Thanks for any input

Larry

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Looks like a nice nessie..:thumbup: The 1st pin hole looks like it may be a little low, but that could just be the angle of the photo..
 
No its not the angle, the First pin dropped a lot from center with the changes tot he blade. Wish I could have seen that coming.
 
Looks nice, you could always weld the hole closed and drill it higher to center it or JB Weld it.
 
so drill a centered one just in front of it, a centered one in the middle and a corresponding one at the tail, forget the ones under the scales, nobody will see them anyway

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I know what you are talking about. I started a square bladed knife. I got one side rough profiled. Then I moved to the other side, and was not paying attention. I did the grind totally wrong. It was ok, because I was intending to make a very short blade that I could carry concealed with no problems. I started it a bit long just in case I messed up the secondary grind on the tip, just grabbed a hack saw and removed the bad grind. It ended up the exact length I was planning on, so no harm done (except for the wasted time).
 
sunshadow said:
so drill a centered one just in front of it, a centered one in the middle and a corresponding one at the tail, forget the ones under the scales, nobody will see them anyway

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Curses! I always do things the hard way!:(
 
No need for a new hole, just use a diamond or carbide burr and make the hole oval until the top is where you want it. On reason I make my bolt holes 50% oversize is to allow for mis-alignment and changes in the tang during grinding.
Stacy
 
I tried drilling a new hole. the drill bit just spins with no luck. It was already been to HT so I am thinking I need to undo the HT and not looking foreward to that. also may have to RE-DO the plunge lines they are a bit off from each other.
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try putting a clamp of some kind on the knife so it will stand up in a bucket of water - then heat the tang with a torch if you can. MAybe that will soften it up enough to drill. If not - just lengthen the hole with a grinder it of some sort - That sounds easier :)
 
bladsmth said:
No need for a new hole, just use a diamond or carbide burr and make the hole oval until the top is where you want it. On reason I make my bolt holes 50% oversize is to allow for mis-alignment and changes in the tang during grinding.
Stacy
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Larry listen to Stacy on the hole. I have a carbide burr you can use. Dont mess with the HT.

The plunge cuts can easily be corrected on the belt with the help of a file guide.

The overall profile can use some re-fining too but this one has potential to be a fine knife.

Did you draw a plan on paper or just draw on the steel and start cutting and grinding? My daddy always told me; "If you fail to plan, You plan to fail". Be sure to draw out each model and cut it out of cardboard to see how it looks and feels in the hand.
 
Bruce Bump said:
Larry listen to Stacy on the hole. I have a carbide burr you can use. Dont mess with the HT.

The plunge cuts can easily be corrected on the belt with the help of a file guide.

The overall profile can use some re-fining too but this one has potential to be a fine knife.

Did you draw a plan on paper or just draw on the steel and start cutting and grinding? My daddy always told me; "If you fail to plan, You plan to fail". Be sure to draw out each model and cut it out of cardboard to see how it looks and feels in the hand.
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HAHA I think I used that Quote last friday at the union meeting wonder where i heard it????

Bruce this was the big knife with the hump on the back that i wasnt exactly happy with how it turned out it looked good on paper and when cut outon the cardboard then the initial cut to the metal. (HHMM again wonder where i learned that HAHA)

but I got the Grind lines messed up got frustrated and tried fixing them there and then and it just seemed to get more interesting as it went. I think this would have been a good example of when you start to mess up step back and look at it for a while before trying to fix it.
 
blub said:
Curses! I always do things the hard way!:(
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One thing I learned as a musician when I worked in a band where the guy running it believed that everyone solos (I was always either vocals or backing instruments I never took leads) was if you make a mistake once it is a mistake, if you hit that same d#mn note 3 more times in about the same spot in the subsequent phrases it seems intentional and you're being innovative and artistic. I was all the way stage right so I usually had 8-24 measures to figure out what we were playing, what key we were in, and pattern it, cause we never played the same song twice, and we never practiced unless it was on stage live, just wherever the guitarist went, or when we were the house band for openmics, as long as someone on stage other than the drummer knew what the openmiker was doing we could fake it.
If you screw something unimportant up, make it look intentional and finish it impeccably

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If you do end up having to soften a tang I stick the blade in a potato, then use a torch, works like a charm. Except it's a pain in the neck all the way around having to fiddle with it in the first place.

The ugliest knife I've ever made someone fell in love with and bought, craziness. One man's junk is another's treasure. Good luck...
 
I dont think I am going to remove the heat treat if nothing else I will have a sharp camp knife for myself. I believe I will grind the hole bigger and just be carefull with Pin Setting and use a strong adheasive on the handle. If it aint good it wont go anywhere but to me, I will post pics when it gets done so you can see how it turned out.
 
Haley Bell said:
If you do end up having to soften a tang I stick the blade in a potato, then use a torch, works like a charm. Except it's a pain in the neck all the way around having to fiddle with it in the first place.

The ugliest knife I've ever made someone fell in love with and bought, craziness. One man's junk is another's treasure. Good luck...
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First one I sold was one that I screwed up and re-did several things to fix. Thought it was the fugliest knife ever made and intended to test it to failure to check my heat treat, but some guy at work saw it and said how much for this? I told him what I thought of the thing and he ended up giving me $50 bucks for it anyway:eek: Of course, he got about 60 hours of my work for pretty cheap. Unfortunately, half of that work was correcting mistakes made while correcting mistakes, while correcting...

I have the king daddy of all mistakes to tell ya. I was preparing to heat treat my first (and so far only) 440C knife. Took my time setting the HT oven and double-checking the HT specs from Admiral Steels and when I got done realized I'd forgotten to drill the #@$#@ holes for the pins:mad: That's not the end of it... I endeavored to try annealing the tang with a blow torch and tried drilling - no joy. The damn stuff air hardens too! Right now I'm planning to get some carbide bits from Tracy's outfit and finally get the thing done. I really think it would be cool to have a thread dedicated to the mistakes that we all make. That way my post count could rise exponentially:D

Regards,

Dave
 
General Specific said:
First one I sold was one that I screwed up and re-did several things to fix. Thought it was the fugliest knife ever made and intended to test it to failure to check my heat treat, but some guy at work saw it and said how much for this? I told him what I thought of the thing and he ended up giving me $50 bucks for it anyway:eek: Of course, he got about 60 hours of my work for pretty cheap. Unfortunately, half of that work was correcting mistakes made while correcting mistakes, while correcting...

I have the king daddy of all mistakes to tell ya. I was preparing to heat treat my first (and so far only) 440C knife. Took my time setting the HT oven and double-checking the HT specs from Admiral Steels and when I got done realized I'd forgotten to drill the #@$#@ holes for the pins:mad: That's not the end of it... I endeavored to try annealing the tang with a blow torch and tried drilling - no joy. The damn stuff air hardens too! Right now I'm planning to get some carbide bits from Tracy's outfit and finally get the thing done. I really think it would be cool to have a thread dedicated to the mistakes that we all make. That way my post count could rise exponentially:D

Regards,

Dave
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LOL I think that a area for mistakes could be its own Foum area. LOL You could have jokes bloopers and Mistakes. I bet the mistakes foum would win hands down. Everyone going to see what the others messed up on, and learn from each others mistakes. or just point and laugh. :D
 
Larry Hensley said:
LOL I think that a area for mistakes could be its own Foum area. LOL You could have jokes bloopers and Mistakes. I bet the mistakes foum would win hands down. Everyone going to see what the others messed up on, and learn from each others mistakes. or just point and laugh. :D
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Man, I've got a 12" pseudo cutlass/bowie/abomination in 1/4" stock just sitting on the floor under the workbench 'cause I can't stand to see it, but also can't stand to waste that much steel:barf: I had the bright idea of putting a thumb ramp on it before I was skilled enough to grind without a flat spine (just like yours, but you didn't jack it all the F up like mine). It has no ricasso left and the friggin' handle was too short by design already. Truly an eyesore. I'd just grind it and heat treat for the hell of it, but I also can't stand to waste 4 or 5 good belts on such a POS. All in favor of the POS/Mistake forum say AYE!:D

Larry, I'm sure you can salvage that one. Pain in the ass though isn't it, especially after the HT?


Have a good weekend all, I'm off to see my family for the first time in I don't know how many months...
 
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