A newb, needs some advise, (or a bunch of really stupid questions about Busse knifes)

Volk

Volk

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First of all sorry, I wish I didn't have to ask this, but my problem is I'm really short on time, I'm working three jobs now (partly because want to have spear $$$ to buy myself a good knife), and have about 2 hours a day to do my own staff. I'm sure these questions have been asked before.

For those of you who don't know, and probably all of you don't (and really don't care to know) I have decided to buy a good quality knife, with a good warranty. Because I've got tired of buying knives and having to throw them away in a month or so. Here is my story http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=500653

In short, for now I'm seriously thinking on ordering a Busse (if i figure out how).

here are the three questions I had.

-How is the warranty on these knives? (I've heard its the best, but i havn't seen any official statements, how is it lets say compared to strider's warranty)
-second, if i modify my knife, by sharpening the back of it, to turn it into a double edged knife, will this woid my warranty?
-third is as important, if i sharpen the back of the knife like Badger attack, will the quality of the knife go down? (I mean it will be more suited to my style and what I need it for, but if I strike it against a brick or something, is it more likely to break. After all the shape of the knife is the way it is for a reason)

And here are the questions I just eneded up having after looking over the few threads in this forum, within the past couple of minutes.
-How hard is it to get a Busse you like?
-How long does it take to get one?
-Is this the corect price list for the non-series models http://bussecollector.com/gpage.html5.html ?

What else a compleate newb who heard of Busse only about two weeks ago, doesn't know, and might want/need to know about buying/owning a Busse.


Once again sorry for stupid questions, their number and such a long post.
 
-How is the warranty on these knives? (I've heard its the best, but i havn't seen any official statements, how is it lets say compared to strider's warranty)
-second, if i modify my knife, by sharpening the back of it, to turn it into a double edged knife, will this woid my warranty?
-third is as important, if i sharpen the back of the knife like Badger attack, will the quality of the knife go down? (I mean it will be more suited to my style and what I need it for, but if I strike it against a brick or something, is it more likely to break. After all the shape of the knife is the way it is for a reason)

And here are the questions I just eneded up having after looking over the few threads in this forum, within the past couple of minutes.
-How hard is it to get a Busse you like?
-How long does it take to get one?
1. Excellent, and much better than the others.
2. Probably.
3. Of course, but it will still be very, very, very tough. Simple physics. A branch is stronger than a twig.
A. It depends on how picky you are, and how much you are willing to pay. Some Swamprats and Scrapyards are easier to get.
B. See A. Some are available immediately.
 
I'm thinking about, Badger attack, leaner Meaner SL R, or heavy duty, in black finish, i don't really care about the handle material as loong as its properly functional (as for looks department, i'm also considering strider that should tell you just how much I care how one looks) . And I wanna buy one of them direct, new not used. How hard is that?
 
Go to the Busse/Swamp Rat/Scrapyard for sale forum here and look at what people have up for sale. It is easy to find a new/unused knife in there.
 
Volk said:
How is the warranty on these knives? (I've heard its the best, but i havn't seen any official statements, how is it lets say compared to strider's warranty)
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Warranty is the best in the business. Busses have been abused in all manner of ways, and Jerry always stands behind his knives.

Volk said:
-second, if i modify my knife, by sharpening the back of it, to turn it into a double edged knife, will this void my warranty?
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My guess here is yes. However, a lot of folks here do mod their knives, and you never hear of any problems--mainly because the knives are built well enough in the first place that they don't fail.

If you do such a mod, any kind of grinding needs to be slow and cool so that you don't disturb the temper of the steel.


Volk said:
-third is as important, if i sharpen the back of the knife like Badger attack, will the quality of the knife go down? (I mean it will be more suited to my style and what I need it for, but if I strike it against a brick or something, is it more likely to break. After all the shape of the knife is the way it is for a reason)
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This seems pretty subjective since you don't specify uses. However, you are correct in that many Busses are overbuilt to take a lot of abuse. If you start paring down the thickness and then hitting a lot of bricks, of course you're going to up your odds for damage.


Volk said:
-How hard is it to get a Busse you like?
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Depends on what you like. But right now, not that hard. It's a buyer's market because Busses have been pouring out of Wauseon recently in all shapes and sizes. Lots to choose from at the moment. It won't always be like this.

Busses come in batches typically. There's the regular offering at www.bussecombat.com (the Busse Shop) which rotates every few/several months. There are periodic offerings at www.bussecompanystore, also known as BCS or the Company Store. Finally, there are occasional Extravaganzaaaaas, where knives are posted in advance, and then there's a race to contact the Shop after a GO! post here at Bladeforums (or the home forums).

If none of those suit you at the moment, there are a LOT of Busses bought and sold in the Exchange here at Bladeforums.


Volk said:
-How long does it take to get one?
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The Shop (and affiliated Extravaganzaaaas) can take weeks to months after the order. The Company Store (and affiliated Extravaganzaaaas) gets stuff to you within the week most often.


Volk said:
-Is this the corect price list for the non-series models http://bussecollector.com/gpage.html5.html ?
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Those were the original retail prices from the Shop or Store. Secondary market prices tend to be a bit higher. Not ALL of those models are going to be available. Actually, only a couple are. The Shop is taking orders for the Scotch Dispenser right now. And BCS has a few Game Wardens still available.
 
Volk said:
I'm thinking about, Badger attack, leaner Meaner SL R, or heavy duty, in black finish, i don't really care about the handle material as loong as its properly functional (as for looks department, i'm also considering strider that should tell you just how much I care how one looks) . And I wanna buy one of them direct, new not used. How hard is that?
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Very hard.

The Badger is no longer available for order from the Shop. It was taken down a while back. Badgers were offered in a very recent Extravaganzaaaa, but that opportunity is past as well.

Your best bet is the Exchange here at BF. I'm betting you can find a new Badger or Leaner Meaner at a decent price there. Heavy Duty might be harder to find since it hasn't been offered for some time (and was just a special BCS offering anyway). I think I did see one on the Exchange recently, however.
 
If it's a double edged blade you want, one idea is to look out for a Hell Razor with the 6" blade. It has a bit of a swedge and might be more easily sharpened on top than a Badger Attack. I actually don't own a HR, however, so someone else will have to let you know if this idea has any merit.

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Thank you very much for the info.

There was not a doubt in my mind about the quality, and I just wanted clarifications.
Its a pity though, some of this info was rather depressing, my budget for a new knife was around $350 for that I needed a good user, and something that I would be able to cary. Judging from what I read, Busse is agood knife, but its more of an investment, rather then a purchase of a tool one needs. I don't need something complex good looking and famous. I want quality, and functionality. I don't want to resell my knife, the only way I want to part from it is when its in pieces, going to the factory to get fixed. I also don't want to settle for a knife, there for I want something i can buy and say to myslef I didn't go cheap, but bought what I need.
 
Just a quick scan of the sale forum reveals a BATAC for less than $350, and a Scrap Yard Street Scrapper (not Busse, but INFI steel) for a little more than half that. And I didn't even look very far down the first page. It can be done.

It is true that a Busse is an investment - an investment in a tool that, when you really, really need it to save your hide, it will not fail you.

You said, "I don't want to resell my knife, the only way I want to part from it is when its in pieces, going to the factory to get fixed." Sorry to disappoint you, but that ain't gonna happen.
 
Volk said:
Thank you very much for the info.

There was not a doubt in my mind about the quality, and I just wanted clarifications.
Its a pity though, some of this info was rather depressing, my budget for a new knife was around $350 for that I needed a good user, and something that I would be able to cary. Judging from what I read, Busse is agood knife, but its more of an investment, rather then a purchase of a tool one needs. I don't need something complex good looking and famous. I want quality, and functionality. I don't want to resell my knife, the only way I want to part from it is when its in pieces, going to the factory to get fixed. I also don't want to settle for a knife, there for I want something i can buy and say to myslef I didn't go cheap, but bought what I need.
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$350 should easily get you a Badger. Keep watching the Exchange. Use the Search function.

Investment or tool? Well, Busses do tend to go up in price, but don't fool yourself somehow and think that they are not good tools. If it's quality and function you want, you won't go wrong with a Busse.
 
Volk said:
I'm thinking about, Badger attack, leaner Meaner SL R, or heavy duty, in black finish, i don't really care about the handle material as loong as its properly functional (as for looks department, i'm also considering strider that should tell you just how much I care how one looks) . And I wanna buy one of them direct, new not used. How hard is that?
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The miliganza AD's are REAL close to the HD in thickness, I've been carrying a Leaner Meaner IWB for a couple of years, it's my favorite.

There are some miliganza blades (Meaner's & AD's) currently on the exchange, most priced as users. (It's currently a buyers market as has been pointed out)

Yes, I read your last post, & yes they're an investment, but you can beat the :eek: out of one, and if you tire of it, recover most (or all) of your original investment. Often a 5 year old Busse user will sell for more than the original cost, the mint draw a premium.

You said you'd prefer buying new, but with Busse's, it's a right place, right time thing. You can find a user on the exchange or post a WTB, if you want it pretty, send it in to the shop for a spa treatment, & maybe a clipped point or sharpened swedge.

My $0.02
 
If you are concerned about the warranty, you could always see if Busse will modify a knife you purchase to your specs. That may get you your mods and your warranty.

Always worth asking! :)
 
Jeepnut22 said:
If you are concerned about the warranty, you could always see if Busse will modify a knife you purchase to your specs. That may get you your mods and your warranty.

Always worth asking! :)
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Great point. I thought about this earlier and forgot to mention it. :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
First of I believe they are great tools, If I didn't I wouldn't be wasting your time with these questions.

I saw BATAK for 350, and I even asked about it, but what gets me worried (not mentioning the fact that it will be gone gone by the time I get my paycheck) about that knife is its size, while I like it as a knife, I think it might lack in practicality or the amount of use I'll get out of it. It can't be used as an EDC (or can it?) because it wouldn't be carrying it it would be trying to hide it. The one that wil probably suit me more is the BA 3. I want my blade to be able to do three things while being able to still be an EDC, chop down a tree, carve a small figurine out of it, and then serve as a self defence utility if the need should arise.

Its a good knife no questions about it, what i'm trying to figure out if its the best knife for me, because unfortunatly there more things then only quality to worry about.
And as for geting it custom treated, maybe but money is an issue for now.
 
rumor is that the busse company store has several large shipments in the works, from small to large blades. :thumbup:



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Volk said:
It can't be used as an EDC (or can it?) because it wouldn't be carrying it it would be trying to hide it. The one that wil probably suit me more is the BA 3. I want my blade to be able to do three things while being able to still be an EDC, chop down a tree, carve a small figurine out of it, and then serve as a self defence utility if the need should arise.
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BATAC is a little big for an EDC, unless you're named TonyG. He keeps four or five BATACs in his boots. Don't mess with TonyG.

BA3, while a great all-around EDC size, is going to be tough (but not impossible). Expect a prolonged search. They're pretty highly sought after, and you'll have to shell out more than $350, unless Skunk gets really drunk and decides to clear out some drawers. :eek:
 
Hmmm...you have no idea how few words can improve persons mood.

Oh and mike if I buy what I like it will stay with me for life (although I might get few additions later)
 
Volk said:
First of I believe they are great tools, If I didn't I wouldn't be wasting your time with these questions.

I saw BATAK for 350, and I even asked about it, but what gets me worried (not mentioning the fact that it will be gone gone by the time I get my paycheck) about that knife is its size, while I like it as a knife, I think it might lack in practicality or the amount of use I'll get out of it. It can't be used as an EDC (or can it?) because it wouldn't be carrying it it would be trying to hide it. The one that wil probably suit me more is the BA 3. I want my blade to be able to do three things while being able to still be an EDC, chop down a tree, carve a small figurine out of it, and then serve as a self defence utility if the need should arise.

Its a good knife no questions about it, what i'm trying to figure out if its the best knife for me, because unfortunatly there more things then only quality to worry about.
And as for geting it custom treated, maybe but money is an issue for now.
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The BA3 isn't much smaller than the BATAC. I used to EDC a desert anorexic badger (Skinny BA3) in a mid ride pouch sheath under an untucked t-shirt. Never had a problem. I think you ought ot keep an eye open on the exchange and at the company store for meaners or ADs or some sort. You will not go wrong there. The Game Warden is probably more concealable than these, but I love the Meaners my self.
 
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