a not-so-little rust prevention test: round 2

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Last year I tested some knife/gun lubes for their rust-prevention properties and had some requests for others. After scouring the interwebs for those others and buying some, here is that test. Similar to the first test, I am using welding steel since it seems to rust pretty easily. I used a sheet of steel instead of the hot rolled bars, as the sheet of steel was more affordable for the 13 lubricant combinations I'm testing.

The lineup:
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Prolix/BlueLube CLP
Prolix/BlueLube Lubricant
Prolix/BlueLube CLP + Lubricant (the recommended way to treat knives)
Tuff-Glide/Cloth (Tuff-Glide applied and then rubbed in with the Tuff-Cloth)
Marine Tuff-Cloth
3-in-1 oil (I've had more than a couple people on different forums mention they use this as a rust preventative)
Breakfree CLP (the gold standard)
Nano-Oil
Weaponshield
Eezox (shown in other tests to be as good or better than Breakfree CLP)
Froglube (thanks to nja4k for the sample tube!)
WD-40
Mineral Oil (lots of folks use it on kitchen knives as a food safe product. Plus, it's the main ingredient of Ballistol, which I've had lots of folks ask about)


I was going to include the Disotec XFR, but ran out of steel sample pieces. It performed miserably with tap water in the first test, and I was going to use it as a reference since I ended up throwing out my Militec-1 after it's horrendous performance with tap water. The XFR is also headed for the trash can. I changed how I did this test, however, so it's inclusion was pointless. For this test, I cut 2" X 4" pieces of welding steel from a sheet, sanded them with 80grit sandpaper with my palm sander to remove any scale, then cleaned them with Blue Wonder Gun Cleaner and steel wool to remove any possible surface corrosion/rust and leave it chemically clean. Then each plate was wiped down with denatured alcohol to remove any remaining residue.

I coated one plate with one product, using enough to leave a visibly wet finish, but not saturated. For the Tuff-Glide/Cloth, I applied drops of the Tuff-Glide and then rubbed it in with the Tuff-Cloth. I don't have any Marine Tuff-Glide, so I rubbed the Marine Tuff-Cloth over the plate, but didn't get all that much on the plate (I think I need to recharge my cloth). I was cautious to not snag my cloth on the slightly rough edges, so application may not have been the best. The WD-40 was sprayed on and excess allowed to drip off. The Prolix/BlueLube Cleanser (CLP) is almost like water, so I saturated two plates and allowed the excess to run off. One one of those I then applied the Prolix/BlueLube Lubricant, which is much thicker. The Lubricant-only plate was covered in the same manner as plates for the other products. The Froglube was applied to a hot plate, as the instructions recommend using heat to apply the paste.

After coating each plate, I stuck them in slots in a 2X4, and sprayed them with a saline solution consisting of 1tsp of iodized sea salt in 8oz of water. This is about twice the concentration of isotonic saline, or blood. It more closely imitates sweat on a hot summer day in Kansas (at least my sweat is that way). Subsequent applications of water were straight tap water (because I forgot to mix up the salt water). After spraying everything, I left the contraption to sit overnight. Within 12 hours there was noticeable change, and the first photo was taken approximately 18hrs after initial spraying. Just like the first test, the photo shows the best side of the plate to assume a better application of the lubricants.

The results for Day 1:
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The rectangle at the bottom is where the wood rubbed on the plate and likely removed the lubricant and kept the salty water in more prolonged contact with the steel. This is the only explanation I can think of why there is such a similar spot on all of the plates.

By Day 2, every plate but one had rust on it to some degree, not counting the spot where it sits in the wood. I'll let y'all guess which one that is. I was going to post a Day 3 photo but the weather didn't permit it due to the storm.

Day 4... we interrupt this regularly scheduled rust test due to the April ice storm that deposited a nice thick coating of ice on the experiment with 27º temperatures instead of the typical 65º weather.
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Day 5 photo will be posted Thursday evening when things have thawed out and I get back in town.
 
Great review and pics---thank you!

The ones in the needle applicators are handy for getting in the joints and tight spaces on folders. I've long been a Nano-Oil user, but the Eezox and Tuf-Glide had better results in your test and also end up dry to the touch. May have to give one of those a try.

Andrew
 
Thanks for posting.

I did a similar test with Tuf-glide and had good results with it as a protective film. As a lubricant tuf-glide is garbage from my experience though. I'm curious, How are the other good performers as lubes?
 
Great review and pics---thank you!

The ones in the needle applicators are handy for getting in the joints and tight spaces on folders. I've long been a Nano-Oil user, but the Eezox and Tuf-Glide had better results in your test and also end up dry to the touch. May have to give one of those a try.

Andrew
Neither one is as good at lubrication as Nano-Oil, I can tell you that.
According to the Nano-Oil web site:
can Nano-Oil TM be used with other lubricants ?
yes the product is compatible with most of the lubricants found today and will improve dramatically their anti friction characteristics.

I need to contact Mr. StClaire about some questions and feedback I have, and mixing Nano-Oil with other lubricants is one of the things I'm going to ask.

Thanks for posting.

I did a similar test with Tuf-glide and had good results with it as a protective film. As a lubricant tuf-glide is garbage from my experience though. I'm curious, How are the other good performers as lubes?
Eezox is not that great as a lube. CLP is good. Weaponshield is better than everything but Nano-Oil in the lubrication department. There seems to be a trade-off, and finding the right balance is tough.

I currently use Marine Tuff-Cloth on my blades and Nano-Oil in the pivots of my stainless knives. My CPM-M4 Presidio gets a mix of Weaponshield and Nano-Oil in the pivot.
 
I have a large 1070 fixed blade (uncoated) that I currently use that exact bottle of min oil (Walmart medicine isle) on. I plan to use it extensively for food prep while camping this summer.

What would you recommend in place of mineral oil?

Also, if you ever have a chance to test samples of a common high carbon steel I'd like to see how the products above fair, but would also love to see how a forced patina and liquid blue work against the control. That would really float my boat!
 
Eezox is not that great as a lube. CLP is good. Weaponshield is better than everything but Nano-Oil in the lubrication department. There seems to be a trade-off, and finding the right balance is tough.

I currently use Marine Tuff-Cloth on my blades and Nano-Oil in the pivots of my stainless knives. My CPM-M4 Presidio gets a mix of Weaponshield and Nano-Oil in the pivot.

Thanks,

I wipe all my knives down with marine tough cloth and use blue lube on the moving parts. I'm going to have to check out nano-oil. I keep hearing great things about it.
 
Day 5, after the ice thawed out:

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I have a large 1070 fixed blade (uncoated) that I currently use that exact bottle of min oil (Walmart medicine isle) on. I plan to use it extensively for food prep while camping this summer.

What would you recommend in place of mineral oil?
FrogLube. While it isn't the best when exposed to saltwater that is twice the salinity of blood, it apparently is made from all food-grade materials, per their MSDS sheet:
Section II—Hazardous Ingredients/Identity Information
Hazardous
Components
(Specific Chemical
Identity, Common
Name(s))
OSHA PEL
ACGIH TLV
Other Limits
Recommended
% (optional)
NONE - NOT REQUIRED ALL FOOD GRADE APPROVED

If I had the time, I would make some more plates, coat them in FrogLube, and test out tomato, orange juice, onion, egg, and other stuff to see how it holds up against normal food items.


Also, if you ever have a chance to test samples of a common high carbon steel I'd like to see how the products above fair, but would also love to see how a forced patina and liquid blue work against the control. That would really float my boat!
I thought about ordering some 1095, but it was cost prohibitive for my testing purposes. Now, if someone wants to donate about 6ft of 2" wide X 1/8" thick 1095 bar...
 
Thanks man.

I actually have a bar of 1095 in that size only it's 2 feet... and in storage. :cool: I don't have my shop anymore so I won't be making anything, I'll try to remember to grab it the next time I'm over there. Could do some limited testing anyway.
 
I have been using BreakFree CLP on my guns for years and have been pretty happy with the way it prevents rust. I also have know about Eezox since I first started using Break Free, but never ended up trying any because I was happy with the BreakFree. It looks like Eezox it did very well in your test.
 
If I might add a suggestion? Many here use synthetic motor oil as a lubricant or metal protector.

Any possibility of doing a test with that?

Many thanks for the tests. It just confirmed my own observations with Eezox.
 
Well Eezox is clearly a winner at protecting metal. Color me impressed.

Interesting that the control looks better than some of the treated samples.
 
If I might add a suggestion? Many here use synthetic motor oil as a lubricant or metal protector.

Any possibility of doing a test with that?
I thought I had some Mobil 1 synthetic 5W-30, but I had used it. Otherwise I would have included it.

Well Eezox is clearly a winner at protecting metal. Color me impressed.

Interesting that the control looks better than some of the treated samples.
I have a feeling that they are chlorinated in some way (hence they make more salts each time they get wet). Militec-1 did the same thing, but worse than the Prolix/Blue Lube.
 
Isn't Eezox very toxic? I've heard that before in the past, which makes me really surprised that FrogLube was able to match the performance of it so well and while being foodsafe.

I've seen tests with Eezox befor eand it always fairs well. Though one particular test, only one did better than it, and quite a surprise it was... Rem Oil
 
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