A Sad, Sad Day for Firearms

Not unexpected....most "hunters" of today START at .300 magnums and go up,then blast deer and other things at 500yds and claim to be Davy Crockett!! :grumpy:

Do not get me started on this crap! :thumbdn:
 
Well said, Sarge.

I will say for the record that I'm not blaming the Belgians for this; their decisions make perfect sense from a business standpoint. The company wants to make money. That's every company's goal. Every member of the organization, from the CEO to the stockholders to the employees, deserves no less.

It still bugs me a bit, but lots of things bug me a bit. Stuff happens.

The silver lining to the clouds is that there are a lot of these guns in circulation and it's pretty hard to wear one out. One of my room mates has a hand-me-down '94 from the '30's; aside from some finish wear, it works fine. My other room mate's '94 hasn't been dated yet but its serial number is even lower. It rattles, it's loose, and the finish is closer to in the white than blued, but it still shoots fine. They last. They'll be around for a while.

Nostalgia being what it is, I wouldn't be surprised if we see them come back one day. I'm sorry to see them go, though.
 
My Father In Law is selling a bunch of his guns. A Chief Crazy Horse commemorative, a John Wayne Commemorative, and a couple pre-64's...Guess all my moneys gonna be spoken for for quite awhile. Not wanting to scalp 'em, just get 'em while available...


Kinda sucks. Can't blame them for the business decision. I guess I'm just considering the....nostalgia? It's hard to say....like the world has moved on and forgotten something really imporant.
 
Well... the lever action itself is not dead, look at Marlin's fine products.

Olin (Winchester) had profitability problems. To me, it wasn't the same gun when it became US Repeating Arms.

The era of the lever gun probably has passed.... we should mourn it.

It will always be a part of American history.



Ad Astra
 
I think its a sign of the times . People are looking for security and expect to find it in efficiency as opposed to romanticism . Those harsh words aside I think the winchester lever was a great rifle . (Heck I,m already saying was .)
I,ve always wanted one in 44 magnum .
 
This is a mistake. My prediction. Colt stopped making single actions and paid dearly for it once upon a time.
The sales were there, but not robust. I always bought Marlin when it came to levers, and I suppose many others did too.

Not worth the trouble? That will come back to haunt them.


munk
 
Back in 78 I purchased a Little Big Horn Commerative at the Lakenheath (UK) Rod and Gun Club.
It barely functioned. Lubricating it didnt help, and the action just didn't seem to want to "work in"., .
I held onto it for a yr or so, and traded it for a Dan Wesson .357 when I got back to the states.
That soured me on Winchester, and I never bought another.
Lately I have been finding myself drawn to the 1860 Henry style.
One would look great over the mantle with my repro Souix stone head Hawk.

DaddyDett
 
I love all these great Military Surplus firearms and other neat stuff that we get, and we can say it was a "business decision" but here's my take.


Made in Japan? Belgium?

I personally would like to see a law passed that prohibited any importation of any guns made in any country that prohibits or severely restricts their own citizens from owning guns. I mean maybe we could allow surplus from those countries, but rather than standing for unrestricted capitalisim, I think that our trade policy should reflect our own individual liberties we champion. I think that importation of firearms produced in a country that prohibits their own citizens from owning guns should be banned:mad:
 
That will never happen, Hollow, but I do like the idea of a financial boycott hurting them. If the US stopped taking imports from nations that severly restricted their own citizens from firearms, the market for arms would be hurt very badly.

But like I said, it will never happen, and I don't think it would accomplish any positive results anyway.


munk
 
While it is sad to see the Winchester name go away, it has only been a name for quite some time now. The company itself hasn't been there since '64. :(
 
Roadrunner said:
While it is sad to see the Winchester name go away, it has only been[/b] a name for quite some time now. The company itself hasn't been there since '64. :(
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What Roadrunner Said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(

However the Winchester name has "died" and been re-born several times in the twentieth century. As have Remington, Marlin, Ithaca, Savage, Stephens and probably a few more that I've forgotten about. FWIW, I have little doubt that some other corporate entity will pick up this fine old name try to keep it going a little longer. Just as Browning did. One can only hope they'll even be able to restore some of its former glory. :)
 
I am embarassed to admit that my first deer rifle, a near mint 1960 Winchester Model 94 in 30/30 has sat languishing in the far back corner of my safe, unfired for over 20 years, waiting for an interested grandson. I have grandsons age 13, 12, 11, 11, and 9 , but their mothers don't think they're old enough to go hunting yet. One of my sons and both of my sons-in-law think it unwise to buck the boys mothers on this issue
 
My Sister had that idea about my Nephew; that it was too soon to teach him about target shooting, hunting, or anything at all about firearms.
He's now 16, I think, and broken. I cannot teach him about these things until he is better. I'll wait.

If I'd been able to teach him when he was 10, amongst a lot of other things- like having chores to do, and simple things, like eating what was on the dinner table or not at all, there would be a better chance for him. But we never know. He's going through what I went through, and I don't envy him.

WE pays our monies and takes our chances. He's a good guy and I hope he makes it out of his present predicament.


munk
 
That is sad news. I am glad I hung on to my Wrangler '94. It is the shortest longarm I own, and kicks like a mule, but it has the large John Wayne lever and a tang sight. It hits well on both ends.:o :rolleyes: It always makes me feel like the Duke when I carry it. I guess this is another reason to hang on to it.
 
Well I'm sad to see them go as Winchester is an American Icon and when most folks think lever gun they think Winchester, but not me, I've always been a Marlin man.
I don't need one and can't justify one but I have been sorta wanting a .45-70 Marlin Scout for a while now, probably due to all the talk here about the .45-70.
When my b-i-l asked if I wanted to use his to hunt whitetails with one year I told him, "Not only no, but Hell No!" Maybe I'll see if he still has it now and maybe trade him outta it. Helluvit is that he is hell on guns of any kind, never cleans them and is worse than me about that. At least I wipe mine down once in a great while.:o ;)
 
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