A story that I have to tell.

Thanks for the story.

Don't be surprised when we civilians have some misconceptions of Basic. Most of our knowlege is derived from movies and such:
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Your story made me realize, I've been carrying a Spyderco for about 20 years now. Damn good knives.
 
I'm a few years behind you Zen. I bought my first Spyderco when the enduras first came out. I still have it, and carry it occasionally. The FRN clip is intact, but has lost it's grip. Joe
 
Can you describe your dummy cord setup. I'm pretty sure it's a long lanyard attached to the knife and belt loop but could use some specifics.

it was/is just a piece of 550 cord, gutted and knotted on one end and tied to a button hole.....
 
I wouldn't take some of the reponses here very seriously. Some folks, even some who post on knife forums and should know better, are sometimes too tight assed to see a knife as a very useful tool, and only see it as a "weapon"......and people who tote badges are particularly bad at this.

TR Graham
The Glocksmith

That's very weird; I don't see why more people cannot recognize a knife as a useful, indeed essential, tool.
Are they killing their steak with that steak knife? NO, it's a tool.
Are they killing those boxes open with a work knife? Once again, it doesn't seem like it.
Very odd, as you mentioned, that people on a KNIFE FORUM don't recognize a knife as a tool.
 
Very odd, as you mentioned, that people on a KNIFE FORUM don't recognize a knife as a tool.

Funny, but I don't see that anywhere.

If you're talking about boot camp I can also tell you that they took our antacids, asprins, dice, cards, books, etc.

Does that make us anti book, or anti-antacid?

Personally, my knives are tools. All 300 plus of them. My guns are tools also. all ___ of them . Joe
 
In boot camp the access to weapons is highly supervised. There is no keeping weapons around the barracks, or access to them untill it's time to train with the instructors.

Being as this was a thread about KNIVES, this here really implies that knives are to be viewed as weapons.
 
Being as this was a thread about KNIVES, this here really implies that knives are to be viewed as weapons.

By the military during boot camp. The reason why this is done has already been explained. This fact revelealed on a knife forum doesn't mean the people on the knife forum hold similar views. :rolleyes:
 
Cool story, thanks for sharing and most of all thanks for serving! We're not suppose to have a knife over a certain lenght open but for the most part it's ignored for now. My Military seems to make even military folks a little uneasy even though our guys going to the mid east get issued AFOs which is almost as big.
 
stabman stated:
Being as this was a thread about KNIVES, this here really implies that knives are to be viewed as weapons.

I suppose, If I wasn't paying attention, or didn't know how to read I could take it that way.
I was answering this post:

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Try reading my post again General Patton.

I did. Still don't get it. These men are given loaded weapons.

Make more sense now?
 
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stabman stated:


I suppose, If I wasn't paying attention, or didn't know how to read I could take it that way.
I was answering this post:



Make more sense now?

The insults are not appreciated, nor are they necessary.
I do realize you were answering said post.
The fact you did not make ANY MENTION of knives as a separate item in the part about no weapons, followed by the part about REAL soldiers being allowed knives(as an exception though) makes it quite plausible to say you were lumping knives in as weapons.
You and Zen can get all huffy about what you apparently MEANT by what you said---I don't care.
How about you try being civil for a change? It might get you further in life.
 
The insults are not appreciated, nor are they necessary.
I do realize you were answering said post.
The fact you did not make ANY MENTION of knives as a separate item in the part about no weapons, followed by the part about REAL soldiers being allowed knives(as an exception though) makes it quite plausible to say you were lumping knives in as weapons.
You and Zen can get all huffy about what you apparently MEANT by what you said---I don't care.
How about you try being civil for a change? It might get you further in life
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Get thicker skinned. You made a mistake. Rather than manning up to it, you try to blame others, now complain about the way you were treated.

You get treated how you act. If you don't like the way I am treating you, then, you know the old saying, "the ignore button is your best friend".

You also likely won't get as rough handling if you stop attempting to put words, and meanings in other peoples mouths. I say what I mean, and mean what I say. No translation from you is necessessary.

BTW, for me, this is being civil. Joe
 
hey....you dudes need to go somewhere else with that crap....I dont want your personal flame war in MY thread....pack it up and move it out!:mad:


this was my story for Sal and Spyderco as well as its fans and owners....not for you two to start a fight and act like idiots.....:thumbdn:
 
I enjoyed your story. I have been in the military for quite some time and I remember my basic training days. It's nice that you got to keep your Spyderco. My first Spyderco was a Dragonfly that I saw in the PX. I have bought many more since then.

Dan
 
HEY NUMBSKULLS yeah you two arguing...

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hey....you dudes need to go somewhere else with that crap....I dont want your personal flame war in MY thread....pack it up and move it out!


this was my story for Sal and Spyderco as well as its fans and owners....not for you two to start a fight and act like idiots.....

Quit shouting.
uh, Langston, in fact there is nothing here worth shouting, or name calling over. Unless you own BF, nothing here is yours. You are adding to the problem, or escalating what was a dead issue, pretty well finished. The " idiot" , or "numbskulls" stuff doesn't work real well here either. Your story was nice, and brought me way back. This names were silly.
BTW, did you ever run accross aircraft commanders, or barracks NCO's that invented their own regs and banned whatever items they took a dislike too? I learned to not keep anything expensive on me when deployed due to that. We also had what were called "health and welfare" inspections in the barracks and company area. They were like prison searches with MP's and K9 corp.That was one of the reasons a lot of us kept an apartment out on the economy, away from base in Germany, and Korea. Joe

Don't blame me for the lack of clarity in your wording.
Stabman, Goodbye.
 
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Semper Fi, Jarhead.

When I joined the Corps I didn't bring a knife cause I knew what the D.I. would do, needless to say I spent some time on the quarterdeck. But when I got those I.P. scissors they found a home in my pocket ready for any small cutting task.
 
Knives are not allowed in basic training for several reasons, the most drastic of which is that even a tiny little knife is easy enough to use to whack yourself or someone else. The trainees are NOT given loaded weapons unless under strict supervision, and god be with you if you get caught with a live round in your pocket. All that stuff is accounted for. I can see where one would be handy and all, but the average recruit doesn't need a pocket knife. That this particular guy was fine and responsible is cool, but there are a lot of people that just go out of their heads from the pressure, to include the guy in my training platoon that tried to kill himself with a stolen fork from mess hall.

Had you been in the Marine Corps, you would have lost your knife immediately, and if it had been found later on, you would have been in serious, serious trouble.

That being said, it was still a good story!
 
Had you been in the Marine Corps, you would have lost your knife immediately, and if it had been found later on, you would have been in serious, serious trouble.
That being said, it was still a good story!
Are we talking peeling potatoes trouble or scrubbing the barracks with a toothbrush trouble? :D
 
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