A ZDP Sebenza, What are the chances?

A side benefit of the thumbhole versus thumbstud is that if you send it back to CRK for blade refinishing and/or sharpening, you wouldn't have to pay for the cost of a replacement thumbstud(s). As you know, at present CRK has to remove the original thumbstud to refinish the blade and then install a new one or two in the case of double thumbstuds. This is added into the total cost.

David
 
deserthawk748 said:
A side benefit of the thumbhole versus thumbstud is that if you send it back to CRK for blade refinishing and/or sharpening, you wouldn't have to pay for the cost of a replacement thumbstud(s). As you know, at present CRK has to remove the original thumbstud to refinish the blade and then install a new one or two in the case of double thumbstuds. This is added into the total cost.

David
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The thumbstud is just one more thing to go wrong. The hole is a simpler design.
 
I dont think i would like a Sebenza with a thumb hole , it wouldnt be a sebenza then .May if there is so much you want to change about it then perhaps its not the knife for you . Have you had a look at Strider knives , some of theirs have thumb holes .

Dunc
 
Uhhhh.....droool...large sebenza in ZDP steel with a flat grind and a thumb hole. Damn...... That would be the PERFECT folder.
 
A sebbie with a hole is nice! I would prefer an oval hole as it would not raise the back of the blade too much. The Buck-Mayo TNT is a perfect example!
 
Hmmm ZDP Sebenza??? I'd buy a few. :D I'll pass on the hole though. ;) I like Chris' thumb studs. That's right. I said it. I like 'em! :)

Edit: Oops .. cant edit reply titles. But the A and the Z keys are so close together. :)
 
I disagree. ZDP-189 is pretty good japonese steel, a revolution. But it is very hard to sharp pure ZDP as new in box. CPMs30v is one of the best steel that exists, easy to sharp, very good edge retention. ZDP189 is only made in Japan, and I think Hitachi doesn't send their raw material out of Japan. So, Chris Reeve should install a workshop in Japan :rolleyes: impossible !
Anyway, CRK uses american technology so, in the better case, CPMs90v or CPMs125v (ZDP189 rival) could be used to make some sebenzas in the futur.:cool:
 
beera said:
The thumbstud is just one more thing to go wrong. The hole is a simpler design.
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If you want a hole and ZDP whatever steel buy a Spyderco. :rolleyes:
 
K.V. Collucci said:
If you want a hole and ZDP whatever steel buy a Spyderco. :rolleyes:
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You keep saying if you don't like it, don't buy it. The "love it or leave it theory."

What is the problem with a little discussion

There is no monopoly on who loves Sebenza best. This is not it.

Cant we talk
:D
 
There is a difference between discussion and a pipe dream. You are trying to discuss changes to a knife in a forum with very diehard Sebenza fans. The knife you wish to be made will never be made. If it would be made it woud not be a Sebenza but an entirely different knife. A Sebenza with a thumbhole and ZDP steel is a Spyderco. Go buy one. :rolleyes:
 
K.V. Collucci said:
There is a difference between discussion and a pipe dream. You are trying to discuss changes to a knife in a forum with very diehard Sebenza fans. The knife you wish to be made will never be made. If it would be made it woud not be a Sebenza but an entirely different knife. A Sebenza with a thumbhole and ZDP steel is a Spyderco. Go buy one. :rolleyes:
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I m talking about a hole option. It is a sebenza if the sebenza maker and factory owner makes it. Does the thumb stud or S30V define a Sebenza? It was made with different steel in the past and was made with flat ground. So I guess those were not sebenzas. :jerkit:

Chill man
:D
 
K.V. Collucci said:
There is a difference between discussion and a pipe dream. You are trying to discuss changes to a knife in a forum with very diehard Sebenza fans. The knife you wish to be made will never be made. If it would be made it woud not be a Sebenza but an entirely different knife. A Sebenza with a thumbhole and ZDP steel is a Spyderco. Go buy one. :rolleyes:
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I agree with that... A knife with the excellence of a Sebeza, and with a spyderhole, and a ZDP blade is for me... a custom knife :) Not a sebie...

If you want your knife, with your steel, your openning system but as perfect as the sebie... Buy a (good) custom...

"Bear in mind that design is a whole package - how the knife (or any other product!) looks, balanced with how it functions. " Anne Reeve.
 
If all people had this mentality we would still be using knifes made from stone.

caveman's voice: (Ahg, this is knife, you want bronze go dig)
 
beera said:
If all people had this mentality we would still be using knifes made from stone.
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But we're not, are we? The knife has evolved as is evident with there being a large number of knife makers and manufacturers out there today. CRK has a proven product in the Sebenza. Why screw with something that is perfect as is in its present form? The risk you take in that is that the knife may not be well received by the fans save for a few who wished it to happen. These would result in a lose for him. Adding a thumbhole to the Sebenza would not be a good idea. The stud defines the knife. It is what makes a Sebenza a Sebenza. Chris Reeve uses S30V because because he had a hand in its development. That is why he uses it.
 
Maybe your right, but with your mentality, Chris Reeve would be a custom knifemaker, and nobody here would have on hand perfectly balanced knives starting at 330$ MSRP..
 
K.V. Collucci said:
But we're not, are we? The knife has evolved as is evident with there being a large number of knife makers and manufacturers out there today. CRK has a proven product in the Sebenza. Why screw with something that is perfect as is in its present form? The risk you take in that is that the knife may not be well received by the fans save for a few who wished it to happen. These would result in a lose for him. Adding a thumbhole to the Sebenza would not be a good idea. The stud defines the knife. It is what makes a Sebenza a Sebenza. Chris Reeve uses S30V because because he had a hand in its development. That is why he uses it.
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I wish you spoke like that from the beginning :D I see your point although I disagree with it. Who knows you might see a thumbhole variant of the sebenza in the future. macarta, wood, graphics, someone could have used exactly the same argument you are making to argue against the use of wood on the sebenza and today we see all those variation in material. :)
 
Agree with collucci.
As I said it before, ZDP189 is a japonese steel from Hitachi. Spyderco has a factory in Japan. William Henry send their knives in Japan for their ZDP189 steel too. So a sebbie in ZDP-189 is impossible.
Spyderholes are a spyderco design. Not a CRK choice for their sebenzas or It would not be a sebenza.
If you want an high quality knive with spyderhole, titanium framelock and a very good steel (CPMs90v or even Damasteel), contact Kevin Wilkins, a famous custom knifemaker from Berlin.:)
 
moonlight said:
Agree with collucci.
As I said it before, ZDP189 is a japonese steel from Hitachi. Spyderco has a factory in Japan. William Henry send their knives in Japan for their ZDP189 steel too. So a sebbie in ZDP-189 is impossible.
Spyderholes are a spyderco design. Not a CRK choice for their sebenzas or It would not be a sebenza.
If you want an high quality knive with spyderhole, titanium framelock and a very good steel (CPMs90v or even Damasteel), contact Kevin Wilkins, a famous custom knifemaker from Berlin.:)
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You see I didnt know that. Now I know because you informed me. Thank you :)

Forget about ZDP.
 
If the thunbhole is a spyderco design then how come strider knives has them?:confused:
They offer both the thumbstud and the hole in their models
 
They pay royalties to Spyderco :) ( like some custom makers... Anso and Wilkins for instance)
 
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