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whereismyknife said:
The action is actually the most important factor that makes a knife usable.
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The blade in a folding knife has two positions that are intended to make the knife useable. Its either closed for carry or open for use. What happens in between makes little difference, except to mall ninja posers that need bragging rights. Until the internet brought discussion forums around, all that mattered was if the knife opened, stayed open and had a serviceable edge. Now, unless the blade moves with complete disregard to the laws of physics and gravity, its considered unacceptable.....Why?
Because the internet says it is....
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unwisefool said:
Interesting, I always thought it was the blade, but I guess you learn something new every day...
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That's how I think when it comes to a folding knife. You may have a crappy blade, but at least it opens neatly when you want it. Think the opposite. Excellent blade, but it doesn't open just at the specific moment you need it. Let me put it this way, you have bullets that pierce everything, but your pistol jams in two out of five shots.Or you have a standard pistol but it never jams. My choice is clear.
 
Arathol said:
The blade in a folding knife has two positions that are intended to make the knife useable. Its either closed for carry or open for use. What happens in between makes little difference, except to mall ninja posers that need bragging rights. Until the internet brought discussion forums around, all that mattered was if the knife opened, stayed open and had a serviceable edge. Now, unless the blade moves with complete disregard to the laws of physics and gravity, its considered unacceptable.....Why?
Because the internet says it is....
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Not because the internet said it, but because I like to use my knife like that. If it opens enough for you, use it that way. I value and appreciate good action. The funny thing is that you react like you've been insulted.This is the "internet" don't take it too seriously. We come here to talk about such things. Everyone is aware of the obvious thing you're saying. But it's a niche hobby. Someone may come and say that "the existence of this forum is stupidity, a knife is a knife." Another might say, "Why don't you buy a kitchen knife and hang out with it. You're talking and discussing about so many different steel lock models, different handle materials." You have knives made of titanium, copper and who knows what materials. You pay absurd money because it has a blabla brand on it or because it is made in America. Now, are you talking about rationality? I guess this nonsense attitude is unique to this forum only.
 
whereismyknife said:
That's how I think when it comes to a folding knife. You may have a crappy blade, but at least it opens neatly when you want it. Think the opposite. Excellent blade, but it doesn't open just at the specific moment you need it. Let me put it this way, you have bullets that pierce everything, but your pistol jams in two out of five shots.Or you have a standard pistol but it never jams. My choice is clear.
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So basically a knife is simply a fidget tool to you and nothing more.

I work in the ag industry and a Case or Moore maker slipjoint is by far the most common knife I see carried by farmers or those in the industry. They have the worst action imaginable but slipjoints have been being put through hard work for decades before “drop shut action” was ever a concept.
 
DustinK said:
So basically a knife is simply a fidget tool to you and nothing more.

I work in the ag industry and a Case or Moore maker slipjoint is by far the most common knife I see carried by farmers or those in the industry. They have the worst action imaginable but slipjoints have been being put through hard work for decades before “drop shut action” was ever a concept.
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I wrote a reply to what you said, and directly on the slip joint example. I would appreciate it if you read the whole discussion.

edit: I also don't understand the surprise of wanting more just because something was once doing its job well. times change. needs and wants change too. it's like saying why do we need radiators when we used to heat ourselves with fire.
edit 2: Do you say to farmers who use drones to monitor their fields and do bayesian analysis to increase yields: "I work in this industry and there are still people who do things the way they used to do them, is farming just a computer game for you?"
 
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The knife hobby is a big house with lots of rooms. People hang out where they like. Personally, I have no need for an athletic knife that flips, drops, falls or anything else that sounds like floor gymnastics. YMMV.
 
People have the right to want more. the reason you are already writing here in a forum is because of these people who want more. it is because of these people that an industry exists. otherwise we would all carry the same knife in our pockets and there would be no diversity. lighter, heavier, bigger, smaller, cut better, cut longer, dull later, never dull, don't rust, fold but sturdy like a fixed blade, open faster (I'm surprised that there are people who want it to open slowly). etc. etc. it's ridiculous to want any of these things and say that the action doesn't matter. one of the best posts I've seen on the forum. thank you again for this post.
 
whereismyknife said:
That's how I think when it comes to a folding knife. You may have a crappy blade, but at least it opens neatly when you want it. Think the opposite. Excellent blade, but it doesn't open just at the specific moment you need it. Let me put it this way, you have bullets that pierce everything, but your pistol jams in two out of five shots.Or you have a standard pistol but it never jams. My choice is clear.
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Lol dude you aren't some secret squirrel operator whose life depends on using a pocket knife to steal the crown's secret scone recipe, so unless you are buying junk gas station knives that cost $3, the knife should open fine. Maybe not as smoothly as a custom knife, but it will work. And the blade is kind of the reason for a knife, to cut stuff. If it won't cut, then it's useless.
 
DustinK said:
So basically a knife is simply a fidget tool to you and nothing more.

I work in the ag industry and a Case or Moore maker slipjoint is by far the most common knife I see carried by farmers or those in the industry. They have the worst action imaginable but slipjoints have been being put through hard work for decades before “drop shut action” was ever a concept.
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I think slipjoints can have good action and bad action, you have the whole concept of walk and talk which has been around for probably over a hundred years.
 
Blues said:
Folks, keep on topic and avoid discussing one another. This way the discussion continues and the thread remains open.
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To be fair I think most of what can be discussed has been discussed. At this point the discussion on action is just devolving into minutia and philosophy of use.
 
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