Advantages of non-Axis locking knives?

WadeF said:
How is it too sensitive to dust? Can you elaborate on this? Have you had an Axis lock fail because it had dust in it? Mine gets full of dust, pocket lint, etc and has no problems. Others here talk about getting sand and grit in their axis lock knives, but it never caused the axis lock from locking up properly.

I've had pocket lint cause a lockback to fail, never had it cause a problem with an Axis lock.
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There was a thread at Knife forums called "one folder for survival", one of the posts was by SgtMike88Ret:

Sarge,

At this time, I can't answer your question with any degree of certainty. Before the start of this summer, I'd have immediately said a BM AXIS lock knife or a CR Sebenza. Well, since having two AXIS lock failures this summer due to sandbox type grit and debris, I don't readily recommend them anymore.
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Full thread

WadeF,

Although Axis is an excellent lock - for a survival situation I would prefer Spyderco's Compression lock, which is very strong and easy to clean. My experience with a Lil' Temperance which has a compression lock is very positive. Lil' is a high end Spyderco with an excellent fit and finish just like your BM710HS. BTW, my decision to buy a BM710HS was mostly influenced by your posts - you were right!

Franco
 
Franco G said:
WadeF,

Although Axis is an excellent lock - for a survival situation I would prefer Spyderco's Compression lock, which is very strong and easy to clean. My experience with a Lil' Temperance which has a compression lock is very positive. Lil' is a high end Spyderco with an excellent fit and finish just like your BM710HS. BTW, my decision to buy a BM710HS was mostly influenced by your posts - you were right!

Franco
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I can see how sand could become a problem. I'd be tempted to put one of my axis lock BM's though a sand and grit test and post my findings. Are there any good threads on putting an axis lock back together after being taken apart?
 
WadeF,

there is a thread about "putting an axis lock back together after being taken apart". I do not remember the link, but I printed the thread - have to find the print, a link, and post it here.

Franco
 
mdarby said:
Nick Hyle:

Does the SOG Pentagon Elite flip open with one hand like the BM Axis knives?

Thanks for all the insights.
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MDarby, my 4 inch PE actually flips easier than any of my BMs, even the Ares. It has just enough spring pull to stay closed, but any inertial opening technique pops it right open. It's an excellent fistload, as well.

I think Benchmade makes a better knife. But there are a lot of things I like about the SOG Arcs.

If you were going to get one, I'd think about the 5" blade PE-18, just because it's the only Axis type lock with a bigger than 4" blade. The PE-14 is sort of a poor man's Ares, or a dagger bladed Griptiliian. The PE-18 is a megafolder with a modern lock, and that's pretty rare. My other thought would be skip the inexpensive plastic and go for the full built titanium Vision, on the "you'll always be glad you got a GOOD knife" argument. But it's a chunk of change, and the tanto is less generally useful than a spear point.

Best of course would be if you could find someplace to handle them yourself first.
 
allenC said:
I really don't think a person could disengage the lock while you are trying to stab him to death.
If he could get that kind of grip on your knife hand then it would be easier to twist the knife from your grip or perform a hand-throw.

But I suppose it is'nt impossible.

Allen.
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It certainly would be easier than a "hand-throw" since they don't work with any consistency in real combat anyway.
 
Well I have owned a bazillion knives and have owned several of every locking mechanism on earth and I have settled into the fact that nothing beats the AXIS lock. I have even given up some otherwise great knives (my old Sebenzas come to mind) because I just wasn't satisfied with the locks. At this point I think the only reason I would choose another lock type is if I REALLY needed another feature that was simply not available with any AXIS lock knife. So far the only such situation I have ever found myself in is the one I am currently in. Summer has pretty much already started here in Texas and I will be spending A LOT of time in the water for the next six months so I am in search of a folder made from H-1 and unfortunatly there are no AXIS lock knives that use H-1. If there were then I would already own one! :D
 
I know nothing about H-1, but would an AXIS with s30v (like the Ritter) not be good enough for your needs?
 
Blop said:
Oh no! Not this stupid points. If someone believes, he or she can disengage the Axis of someone else in a combat situation do it. Just do it. You will not reach it.

Mr. Carragi was speaking of it but the archives say, he never used the newer AFCK to proof his statement himself. So he believed but never knew.

To say, a folder can be folded so accidantel disengagment can´t be excluded is, looking on one special type of lock, stupid because
you can disengage any folder and in that respect EVERY folder can be accidantly disengaged and is useless for tactical. EVERY FOLDER, no exeption can be made if that nonsense is the base of discussion.

I mean this is a real life forum, ss stop talking nonsense.
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dont know about that, though i dont THINK it could happen i can see what he's saying, it would be more prone to disengagement than a compression/frame or a good liner lock imho, thats not nonsense.

imho carraci had a point.

imho it is something to keep in mind......
 
tnozh said:
I know nothing about H-1, but would an AXIS with s30v (like the Ritter) not be good enough for your needs?
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Funny you ask. I also own a Ritter Grip that just recently replaced a Large Sebenza as my EDC knife and it has spent many hours in in the water (fresh water) in the past with no ill effect so far. However, I must admit in all fairness that I spent a lot of time rinsing it with tap water and then completely drying it after each period of extended water exposure. I've even used a blow dryer or compressed air on a several occasions. The reason I am switching to H-1 is because my water exposure time is about triple (or more) and I really just don't want to spend all the time it takes to dry out the Ritter Grip daily. I also wouldn't even consider taking the Ritter Grip in to a salt water environment. I like it way too much. :)
 
Brian6244 said:
I also wouldn't even consider taking the Ritter Grip in to a salt water environment. I like it way too much. :)
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Neither would I - for the same reasons ;) . My understanding is that s30v is safe in fresh water and you might get away with less cleaning after use (although don't take my word for it). But salt water will probably corrode this or any other "stainless" steel. In this case you can either clean you blades really well or, like me, being a slob, take a inferior cutting blade (i.e., titanium) but not worry about rust. Wouldn't salt water and no cleaning also corrode H-1?

Cheers!
 
Migo,
This is "off topic" but I just had to know...

Just how many times have you performed a hand-throw in "real combat"?

Allen.
 
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