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advice for a new hunter

You may have already done this, but get as many older issues of the following magazines and read them for tips:

Outdoor Life
Field & Stream
Fur, Fish & Game
American Hunter (NRA magazine)


Oh, and this may be sacreligious on this forum, but don't tote a big, honkin' (over 3" for small game) knife (or more than one) into the field. The other guys will think you're a dweeb.
 
my piece of advise is to hang out with old hunters,

a mentor is a great way to shave time off the curve. Most of the old timers I hunt with are a blast to go out with, I go out for pheasant and turkey with my father inlaw and a few of his buddies that have been hunting since before both he and I were breathing.. but do we ever have fun... look for local sportsmans clubs .
most of those guys will talk your ear off about hunting, guns and dogs.

for waterfowl and upland birds dogs are a must, good dogs are huge help..


have fun and don't forget your orange...


cya
jimi
 
Oh, and this may be sacreligious on this forum, but don't tote a big, honkin' (over 3" for small game) knife (or more than one) into the field. The other guys will think you're a dweeb.

:rolleyes: Carry what you want. Who cares if somebody thinks you're a dweeb? Sheesh.

I don't carry a big honking knife when I hunt because it gets in the way. I carry a big enough knife. Only the guy carrying it has the right to decide that.
 
For squirrel, if you have a corn field to hunt i like to slowly walk around the outer edges and look for their tracks where they are running into the field to get corn and out to sit and eat at a favorite tree. If you quietly wait around there you will have good opportunities especially in the mornings. If you don't have access to a cornfield I like to look for hickory trees early in the season and quietly wait around them.
 
You may have already done this, but get as many older issues of the following magazines and read them for tips:

Outdoor Life
Field & Stream
Fur, Fish & Game
American Hunter (NRA magazine)


Oh, and this may be sacreligious on this forum, but don't tote a big, honkin' (over 3" for small game) knife (or more than one) into the field. The other guys will think you're a dweeb.

What do you mean my Battle Mistress isn't necessary to skin a squirrel?:p
 
IMHO you will have better success sitting and being still and quiet.Sometimes I'll move slowly from one area to another but will sit,watch and listen for hours before moving.If you are in a good area just being still and quiet is your best bet for most small and large game.

Hunting is all about patience.Sometimes it will take hours for all your internal thoughts and words to disappear.It is then when you will start to see everything around you.
 
Only if it's carried cross-draw on the back with an RTAK. Oh, and clench that Randall 18 in your teeth ;)

I'm glad somebody got it.
 
Hey Riley...

Whattya wanna know?

Old man stuff: Wear the right boots. If you're going to be in areas which might be mucky, wear rubber boots...maybe with arch liners in them. Take care of your feet.

Carry water, for you, for dog if possible. Not a gallon, but...maybe a gator aide bottle's worth.

Get a purse. Well, like a purse. Screw the back bags/lower back game pouches, get some milsurp shoulder bag for shells, power bars, water, gloves, leash, and empty bread bags (for dressed-out game), and for the rabbits, birds, squirrels that run into the area you've shot at.

Gun almost doesn't matter. Shotgun is mandatory for birds and for me, rabbits as well. Over the years, I've gone from pumps to double (20 ga), to single shots (Old Hercules, both in 12 and 20, plus er...maybe an H&R? with a bent barrel that got cut down to an open cylinder 20ga--tell you that story sometime--neat hunt). Right now have pump 12s, double 20 and 12, and three singles--two 20's and a 12. Oh, and the SAvage 24s, .410/.22lr, and 20ga/.22lr.

Singles are lighter. Over the years, the first shot is the one I hit most often on. I don't need to cut a hunt short...(hah!) by filling my pheasant limit the first time two birds go up. Out here, I also am not trying to get ALL the birds...coyotes, farm cats, and elimination of hedge rows has done enough of that.

And practice with whatever you are going to carry. Even in my dotage, I practice with my shotguns a fair amount...in the house. No...not at trap...but at developing the move bringing the shotgun up to shoulder while my eyes track the bird. Can be in your bedroom, take a few steps, imagine a moving target in the air, follow with eyes and head, and work on the movement that (for me) brings the stock forward from the body and up and back to the shoulder, while bringing my cheek down to stock as my head continues to move with the target. Snick off the safey as your cheek hits the stock...or with a single, pull the hammer back as you are bringing the gun up to your cheek.

For me, this saves a huge amount of reaction time once I get out in the field on a hunt and a bird/bunny goes out of cover. I can do it in the house, and I can do it OFTEN. I think I'm building muscle memory. I mention lifting the gun forward up and back...because in a hunt...you often will have layered clothing...not shirt-sleeves. Snagging or dragging the shotgun butt just trashes the bringing the gun shoulder movement. I don't have snap-caps, but recommend them. I simply don't pull the trigger in home training.

On the clothing bit...don't know your physical dimensions, but check the fit of the stock to your arms. Most folks have longer stocks than they need. Again...Fall or Winter clothing adds bulk. You're going to be bringing the stock back to shoulder, putting your cheek down, but if your stock is standard, it may be that you will be reaching out for trigger, or have your fore-arm arm (did that make sense? the one you hold the forearm with) over-extended.

Think of the M161a or the M4...short stocks...quick acquisition...same deal with a shotgun. Most cop shotguns are have longer than suitable stocks...but they don't often train with them, in my experience.

Shooting the gun before the hunt practice is important...but really, in my opinion, less so than getting your eyes on the game as you bring the gun up. Trap shooting or any other repetitive practice can induce flinching. When you shoot at a bird or game, you won't feel the recoil. Honestly. It is a non-issue. When target shooting, be best to have some recoil pad on the gun, because you are going to shoot much more often and be aware the the recoil and may develop bad habits.

Don't know your shooting opportunties. I live in rural Wisconsin, alone. I've taken to getting a whippy plastic hand-thrower for trap. I go to the side of the hill outside the house, load the shotgun, hold it by the forearm in my left hand, sling the trap up and out, release the thrower at the end of throwing the trap while bringing the shot gun up with left hand, find hand-grip area of stock with right hand and use both to bring gun up and alligned...all the while tracking the trap with my head and eyes. Gun is often cocked while held, but not always. (It sounds more complicated than it is. It is NOT unsafe. No one else is around.)

OK...too much maybe, but anything else?

Have fun. Don't take it too seriously.

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Allot of Great advice there Kismet... Thanks...

Anytime.

Any questions, big or small, that I can try to answer, just ask.

It is much more about being there than getting game.

Don't buy too much "stuff." For recreational hunting, most is just..."stuff." Folks have more time to buy than to hunt...and get extravagant.

My best wishes.
 
Hi Riley.
Lots of good advise posted here. I got into hunting a few years ago like you; having hunted with my dad when I was a kid, but not since. My best advice would be to find a hunting buddy or two. Its what makes hunting so much fun. It will also motivate you to do better, to get out of bed on those early hunting days, and bond you better than any hobbie I have found out there. Most hunters now are older in years because lots of younger guys dont get into it as much anymore (percentage wise at least). From my experience, this causes most hunters to want to share everything they can with guys that show an intrest in our sport. It also causes more people to care about guns and gun laws too which is something that I will not address here.
Next, find what season you want to hunt for and then prepare for it. If its deer, make sure to research how to deer hunt, scout, what the rut means and how to hunt bucks or doe. Are you going to use a stand? Blind? Or push them with friends? Deer hunting to me is like chess. You have to set your shot up before it takes place. There are tons of variables that can happen, but its that one shot you need..
Dove season is now; well at least here, and is a blast. Find a field with sunflowers planted this summer, bring 100 shells, and have at it. You dont need to be quiet, sit still, or even camo'd up. Its just sheer fun.
Duck runs concurently with Deer and is equally fun. Although it requires a lot of different gear that can get spendy.
A note on gear..woods bummn gear and hunting gear are most often not the same. While some items can be intermixed, you will want a good set of bibs, decent boots and gloves, and a waterproof jacket that doesnt make noise when you move. Muck boots are the best boots I have purchased. Ever. Other items I listed can be had for sale prices when the season ends.
Hope this helps. And dont be surprised when you get addicted. Its so much fun, it gets you outdoors, and is great exercise at the same time.
 
"Put & take pheasants"
Much like stocked trout, they are bred in captivity and released for the hunters.
There is a place on Long Island that did/does that. Out near Rocky Point on the north shore.
I'm pretty sure it is a state facility, you go in the morning, sign up, get assigned a beat or parking space and then you check out when you leave.
I haven't done it but the wife's nephew was a regular there for a couple years.
That was about 5 years ago, maybe more.

For Long Island hunting, he will need to get the free 3 year LI access permit that's available through the DEC.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/regions_pdf/accesspermit.pdf
 
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I started out with a old Savage 20 Ga shotgun and then later my grandpa gave me his Pump action Winchester 22 rifle with which I hunted everything from Doves to Deer. It sounds like you are starting off right with your scouting the areas and putting gun safety first and foremost. I think you will be a great addition to our ranks as hunters.
 
For Long Island hunting, he will need to getv the free 3 year LI access permit that's available through the DEC.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/regions_pdf/accesspermit.pdf

Good info there KW :)
I haven't hunted in a long time.
Never on L.I.

Kismet, YB looks ready to go!

Having buddies to hunt with was huge for me.
After spending the better part of the day alone and quiet, it was a gas to meet up with the guys for the hike out and drive home.
Recounting the days events, plotting and scheming for the next day coming.
Good stuff.

Finding a place off the beaten track is huge too.
When you can count 60+ shots on opening morning of deer season, it's a little busy. Not to mention scary.
:eek:

The only other advice is to watch for seasonal overlap. (I haven't got my new license yet, so I can't check the dates)
Guys stand hunting for deer (archery) and turkey won't be thrilled by someone pounding thru the brush looking to kick out a bunny.

Other than that, looks like you are good to go :D
 
Kismet, I wish you lived out here. I'd be buying the shells and the gas.
 
Sounds like you are already off to a great start. There are a lot of good suggestions here. I would also like to add you have an option to hunt with an air rifle (pellet gun) if you are going to be shooting small game. I used to hunt rabbit and squirrel with a $50 pump air rifle with much success. The good thing about air guns are they are quiet and people object to them less. I've been more successful gaining permission to hunt small game on neiboring property by virtue of my utilizing an air rifle. 20 gauge shotguns are fun as are 22 rifles. I like my Remington 10-22 the best as it is a very versatile "survival" rifle.

I guess the only advice I can give you is to learn to read the land. Learn the habits of the game in your area by observation and by talking to others who hunt. I've picked up all kinds of good tips that way. Learn to be quiet, internally and externally and most of all, enjoy your surroundings. I can't tell you the number of times I have had birds, squirrels, chipmunks, etc. perch on my firearm, head, shoulders and legs when hunting. I get a real kick out of it. Sometimes, I enjoy that more than hunting itself.

Regardless, go have fun. Learn all you can and be willing to share your experiences with others. Get a helmet cam or similar and record your adventures for later enjoyment!
 
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