Advice for folding camp knives

I'm about to buy an orange Rat

If you're talking about the RAT 1 folder, then yeah, it's a great camp knife. The blade is a wicked slicer, great for food prep, and it's open frame design makes it easy to clean out.

High visibility if dropped, AUS8 is a good corrosion resistant steel that takes a razor sharp edge. Solid choice for a camp knife.
 
Yes, orange Rat 1. I love my black Rat 1 and have wanted an orange one for months. Funny enough when I first bought it the guy at the knife store said it was junk and to buy a Spyderco or Benchmade, but I loved it. That has always been in the back of my mind though.
Solid choice for a camp knife.
There will always be something better, but can anyone envision a time when I'd have a Rat and regret not buying something else?
 
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I'd like to see a SAK Spirit in person before I write it off. Like you I really enjoy their products.

I would still like to get something in the middle between the Rat and the PM2. The Manix, Tenacious, and some others were mentioned above, so are there any others that would be better than the Endura in the $40 to $70 dollar range, which would excel camping before I make my choice?

You know....for the price of a Manix2 you can buy a Becker BK9.........and cut whatever your heart desires.........

........just saying....... :D


EDIT: how about the Spyderco Resilience? $39.19 free shipping:

Specs:
Plain edge folding knife with flat ground steel blade, G10 handle, and 4-way hourglass clip
Screw-together construction with skeletonized steel liners
Phosphor bronze washers for fast, smooth open/close action
Enlarged opening hole; spine and choil jimping for a solid hold
Dimensions: 9.375 inches open; 5.25 inches closed; 4.25-inch blade; limited lifetime warranty

http://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Resilience-Black-PlainEdge-Knife/dp/B004AWOLV8/ref=pd_bxgy_sg_text_z

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A lot of the price in the Vic multitools is in the fit and finish. I have several leathermans, a swisstool and a powerlock. On a sliding scale of finish, engineering, and beef, with the Vic being at the top of all of those, and earning the price, the leathermans seem to take a little more time in shaving little bits of weight here and there, are a little less costly in general and are at a bit lower fit and finish. The Powerlock has all the engineering in the plier head, really rough fit and finish (at least on mine) but was the cheapest when I bought it, and had the advantage of swappable (and therefore much more freely grind-able) tools. Each one has its own feel, and its own place in the grand scheme of things. Really it comes down to how the tool feels to you, and what you are looking to get out of it.

I'm sorta half looking at the smaller plier tools to compliment a larger folder, like a 111mm SAK. trying to get a good combo of useful tools, useable backups, and limiting the weight. For my use, I have to consider that anything I need a knife for, might involve the health and safety of someone else, so while I could get any task done with a nice little stockman or trapper, I need to really be looking at faster, meaner methods, all while still avoiding the Rambo/Bear grylls look.
 
Thanks for the explanation, gadgetgeek!

I'm getting the orange Rat 1 and another Trekker. The gentleman I spoke to told me he though the Rat was a harder use blade than the Endura, which he found to have some flex at times. This still gives me the financial flexibility to buy some of the other suggestions in here :)
 
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Thank you all again for the help! It is very much appreciated!
 
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There is a new thread in the general area about folding camp knives where people suggested the American Lawman. Looking at the Cold Steel site there is also a Recon 1 that's a bit larger. Would either be a good camp knife or would the differences in size make a difference?

I've also seen the Opinel mentioned a few times and wonder how the stainless would compare to a SAK?
 
In terms of steel they wouldn't be that far apart. They are both very humble steels of a similar sort of composition. X50CrMO, 12C27, 440A and AUS 6 are all on the same rung of the ladder.

You'd have to set up some controlled tests to really see differences. In real world use the heat treatment of the blade, the geometry of the blade, and the design of the knife as a whole is much more likely to separate them. On that I'd give the nod to the Opinel, given the blade geometry and that they are run a bit harder.

That said, if I were playing silly buggers, and seeing which was more comfortable to sit putting points on sticks for an hour, and how many I could generate, I'd do better with a Svord Peasant. Surprising perhaps because they are made in a rubbish carbon steel [L6 usually used for saw blades] at a measured hardness of around 52, more like a low hardness chopper than a knife [yep, someone probably really could tweak the edge on the jeans they are stood in]. But despite the fact it has appalling edge retention even against the likes of the uber-cheap current crop from China [The fun to play with Enlan EL-01, I'm talking about you], the shape of the thing as a whole would find me preferring it for that.

The Ontario you've just bought is a solid choice. I wouldn't want to fight against that in a cardboard / rope cutting contest with any of the knives I named above.


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P.S Unless you are happy working on knives do not consider the Svord Peasant. The guy is useless at grinding, and my last one was beyond “off”. There was a distinct chisel ground patch. I also have to add parts 'cos the blade edge hits the hindmost pin if you don't. That transcends sux and touches absurdity. I also add washers to smooth out the action. If you can tackle all that there is merit in them. Amongst the lots to loath I'm quite fond of them once they are corrected, and as a rule I find carbon steels an unnecessary PITA.
 
Thank you for explaining that so well! It sounds like there isn't a huge difference, so I'll probably just stick with my SAK.
 
There is a new thread in the general area about folding camp knives where people suggested the American Lawman. Looking at the Cold Steel site there is also a Recon 1 that's a bit larger. Would either be a good camp knife or would the differences in size make a difference?

I've also seen the Opinel mentioned a few times and wonder how the stainless would compare to a SAK?

I have an American Lawman and it is a *very* stout folder. The blade length is about as long as I'd want in a folder and the steel (AUS8) does take a very nice edge. The handle is G10 and feels like it was form-fitted for my grip/hand-size!

The Tri-Ad (designed by Andrew Demko) lock-up is more solid than any other folder I've ever held. I tried to get it to unlock (banging on it in all manner of places and impact forces) and once it's locked, the blade isn't moving.

So if you're looking for a folding camping knife I'd highly recommend the CS American Lawman.
 
My only reservation with the Lawman is it's about the same blade length of the Rat, which I already own? The Recon 1 is a very large knife and not something I'd carry often, but it might not be bad camping. Both look like tanks that I'd have a hard time damaging.
 
Just to update I now own the Rat 1, Trekker, Recon 1, and the Utiliac. I can't stop, so I'm once again thinking about the Lawman. Thank you for the help I'm going to put them to good use!
 
I like to have a designated knife that gets used only for food preps, for sanitary purposes. I think an opinel would be cheap and work great for this task, while also serving as a decent backup folder.
 
I like to have a designated knife that gets used only for food preps, for sanitary purposes. I think an opinel would be cheap and work great for this task, while also serving as a decent backup folder.

Me too. I went with a svord peasant knife. Basically a folding fixed blade.
 
Endura is great. You might think about a Spyderco Military. Super light for it's size, big blade and fantastic slicer.
 
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