Advice for rolled bowie.

[james terrio]

I have sent a fair number of batches of 15 to 20 blades ea to Peters for heat treatment. Every blade came back with a Rc test spot which was easy to see by the buffed off area and divot from the diamond. Jess

That's been my experience as well.

I wish I could "like" your post James:thumbup:

I agree with James....there is something majorly wrong here.

It's kind of you both to say that. I'm just trying to think through the problem in a reasonable way.

Personally, I'm looking forward to hearing Josh tell us whether/how the folks at Peters' address this troublesome issue... and I remain confident that they'll figure it out. Until we hear that, any further speculation is not very helpful.

 

[Robert Erickson]

Huge bummer Jobasha to put all that work into a knife for this to happen! FWIW I just got a call from Brad the other day regarding the last batch I sent them. I erroneously put an O-1 blade in with some 440C. It wasn't hardening so he analyzed it and it came up O-1. My point being that it seems that he is trying to do a good job even if it's not his mistake. If it turns out to be a bad HT the question will be will he make it right? I would imagine he would. Jobasha have you heard from Brad? Hopefully you can get the blade figured out!

 

[Omega Leather Works]

I didn't have a chance to read every post before I replied yesterday, I apologize for that. Should have just waited.

Btw, I think you're handling this very professionally. It's good to allow the craftsman (in this case Peters) a chance to correct a possible wrong before going any further. I think any craftsman can appreciate that.

Looking forward to seeing the outcome and I hope it goes well for both you and Brad.

 

[jobasha11]

Just got off the phone with brad.
Said I could send it in for steel testing to figure out whats going on:thumbup:

 

[Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith]

Good, keep us posted.

 

[jobasha11]

I talked to him earlier today. He confirmed that it was 52100 and something must have went wrong with the heat treat. He redid it and sent it back today.

 

[Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith]

Good customers service...problem found .... problem solved.


This thread is a perfect example of how the BF community can work together to solve a problem civilly and satisfactorily.
Jobasha could have been going off on a rant about how crappy Peter's was and how he was mad, ... etc. But instead he asked serious questions and got serious answers, ....all leading to a pleasant solution. I am willing to bet he uses Peter's again, and that this was a fluke. The direct and to the point replies by the folks here also made the problem's solution easier.
Kudos to all of you.

 

[jobasha11]

This thread is a perfect example of how the BF community can work together to solve a problem civilly and satisfactorily.
Jobasha could have been going off on a rant about how crappy Peter's was and how he was mad, ... etc. But instead he asked serious questions and got serious answers, ....all leading to a pleasant solution.

Thanks, tides could have changed very quickly in this thread. Not happy that it happened but glad it got taken care of. Sh*t happens and I can understand that (seems to happen a lot to me though)

 

[Britt_Askew]

Josh I am sorry you had problems but thanks for sharing. Before now I just assumed that if peters treated the blade it was good to go and I have not been bothering with testing my blades that they treated. I now understand I need to test regardless of who did the HT. This thread will make me a better knifemaker. THANKS

 

[stezann]

That's weird, i assumed heat treating services would do hardness testing, but i bet it is not pratical to test all the pieces...
When it comes to performance there is a lot involved into each of the heat treatment steps, the rolling of that edge was fortunately a macroscopic event, but there are many more subdole things that may go wrong...not noticed... grain growt, carbide segregation, RA... not so easy to spot those one.

 

[Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith]

Just a comment, because I have no idea what the particular problem was....

Just because a blade hardness tests on the tang that it is Rc59 is not a guarantee that the edge is Rc59. Normally, it is pretty much the same, but strange things can happen from time to time.