advice on a new gun.

I wanted to get into pistol shooting for the first time this year and a lot of guys at the Yard suggested a 22 along with whatever gun. I think it's really solid advice to get in more range time.

Here's what I went with (after a detour with the Ruger sr22...it was fine, but I wanted a better shooter).

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get the Sig P220 Scorpion.. it is an incredible shooter and looks great too with the coyote FDE finish, G10 black/green grips and night sights. the lower receiver is the Elite model as well, a great piece
here's the P226 and P229 scorpions
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The Sig scorpions looks sweet. I may have to get one of those just cause they look so good.
Garth
 
As you can see, it's not a simple thing just to select a handgun for a first gun. It's important to know what his intended usage is and his age. In Concealed Carry classes, I've seen many older folks that can't manage the pistols they bring to the class. Your dad may not be in that category. For someone that is not going to put in the time to train in clearing stoppages, a revolver is the way to go. As in an earlier post, the .357 Magnum is a great gun for the the beginner. He can shoot for pleasure and training with .38 specials that won't beat him up, then load it with .357 Magnum loads for defense. Something to think about.

BUT, the P220 is reputed to be a great gun. Wouldn't still be in the service of LE if it wasn't. From a quality standpoint, he won't go wrong buying that gun.
 
That is not true...I have lots of 12 round mags for an HK and I have lots of 15 round mags for a Para..
That being said Glock would be my very last choice because its point of aim is way off for me.
If a Glock was the best Combat Pistol made why wouldn't the Special Forces carry it instead of an HK or a SIG?


I have had most of the HK's and bunches of SIGs, the Sig is a great gun.
I get 220's have them for a while and trade them off...I ALWAYS get another 220..I just miss them. They shoot great and always function.
I have one Glock, someone gave it to me and it would be rude to sell it so I'm stuck with it.

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BePrepared said:
My preference for glock is based upon pure functionality.

it holds more rounds than an HK or Sig (same caliber), will fire under any reasonable condition, and is lighter than HK or Sig

It's not really an aesthetically appealing weapon, but IMHO, it's functionally the best combat pistol made

YMMV

Sigs are purty, and rock solid. I prefer the stainless railed versions
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I would go with the Sig 220 with the regular frame. I also like the HK USP alot, but like the Sig better. It is so easy to break down you can do it with your eyes closed, slimmer than the USP, VERY comfortable in hand, and is very accurate. It also has a great trigger right out of the box, and the recoil is not bad at all for such a light gun.
 
wow guys thanks for all the advice! i guess i should have made a few thing more clear as far as what the gun would be used for. its more of a home defence/ grab and get kind of thing. he most likely will not carry the gun on a day to day. this is the first pistol he has purchased for himself but it is not the first time he has shot. we go out often. he uses my 1911's but isnt a fan (must be crazy!!!) and he has use my S&W .38 and ruger SR9C and LC9. he is legaly blind, not to say he cant see at all just not drive, but he likes the big target sights and a full sized frame makes it easier to find his sights. other than the fact that the SIG fit him like a glove, he liked the size as well. i think this is what he will end up with but i told him i knew a few guys that would have some good input. thanks again guys!
 
i think i sould also ask about the P250. i think its the 250 the ploymer frame one. any way for the price its hard to say no i might have to get one for myself too. anybody hear anything bad about these??
 
Well I finally convinced my friend to buy a gun. . . He is moving into his first home and doesn't know the neighborhood very well. It looks like it is a safe area but looks can be deceiving. He bought a Taurus 38 and fell in love :thumbup:
 
-BEEF- said:
i think i sould also ask about the P250. i think its the 250 the ploymer frame one. any way for the price its hard to say no i might have to get one for myself too. anybody hear anything bad about these??
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I have shot one, and it depends on which frame you get. The longer (regular) grip length frame is OK, but the shorter one is too short, at least for me. It also is a bit thick compared to the 220.

But, the price on these is pretty darn good. So, you could buy a good bit of ammo with that savings.
 
Sigs are good. I'd also like to cast a vote for the FNP or FNX 45. I've got a FNP45 and it's one of the softest shooting .45's I've owned and there is something to be said for 16 rounds of .45 on tap. Also, mine feeds tula ammo like it's going out of style.

GregB
 
If he is a budget minded person then the idea of spending a little less for the gun and having extra to put into ammo may be a good idea.

Garth
 
The eyesight issue is something to consider.

If he has trouble focusing on the sights and see the target "blob" at the same time, he might also want to consider a laser or something capable of taking the smaller tactical red dots.

I'm not a huge fan of lasers, but they do serve a great purpose for people with vision limitations (some of us old farts), and for scaring the bejeebers out of bad people.

You know what they say, "If the SIG fits, where it." :rolleyes:

But definitely see if you can get him some range time with it. And check into sight options and see what works for him best for target acquisition.

good luck!
 
Love the scorpion in their 1911, too.

I am waiting so see if they do a 938 scorpion, that would definitely be my next purchase ;)
 
Pokey1 said:
Well I finally convinced my friend to buy a gun. . . He is moving into his first home and doesn't know the neighborhood very well. It looks like it is a safe area but looks can be deceiving. He bought a Taurus 38 and fell in love :thumbup:
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Smart of you to talk him into it. I've found that the places that look the safest to most people also look like the most profitable places for people with ill intent.

Our "liberal" neighbors, for example, post all sorts of campaign signage in their front yards every election season. We put a few signs up, too, usually to annoy them.

But I think one could drive by during that time, and safely identify which house is "safe" and which isn't ;)

(oh, not to imply that all liberals are anti-gun, but to bad guys, it's a game of odds)
 
If your question is "if it falls in line with the rest of the SIG pistols?" the answer is yes.

IMO the p220 is one of the best examples of Sig's to hell and back reliability, legendary toughness, and outstanding accuracy.

I like the Sig p220 Carry. A slim handled, 30 oz, .45 acp that you can bet your life on is a very versatile option for the one gun scenario.

Regardless of what he ends up getting, tell him congrats. I think everyone should have a handgun.
 
I know they made a real good 45 ACP P220 about twenty years ago. I wanted to buy one real bad, but that first shot double action trigger pull was too long, and I couldn't get a good grip with my girly hands. So I stuck with my single action 1911's:D
 
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I have a P220 with black/green Hogue grips. I absolutely love it. Also... in regard to the .22LR suggestion... I have the .22LR slide conversion for the 220 and it works flawlessly (with good quality .22 ammunition). And because the gun is so easy to takedown, it can be swapped between the .45 and .22 in a matter of seconds.
 
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