Advice on full-size 9mm pistols please

I sold my HK. A great gun, for some reason I couldn't shoot it as well as the others. I think it was the sites? As soon as I got used to the weight difference of the CZ, I shoot it the best over everything I shot.
 
You might consider a Canik TP9 -

I have had a chance to fire one of these and I was impressed, and for a gun that can be had for $340 with a nice accessory package.

I believe they are made in Turkey.

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Not up on California laws, assuming you have some magazine capacity restrictions etc?

The Ruger American looks interesting, no experience firing it though. Ruger makes good pieces.

I also like the Springfield XD/m - mine is the 5.25" version, and if you are thinking competition in the future, the gun comes with what you need to get started.

I bought a S&W M&P Performance Center CORE pistol so I could use a reflex sight, and I love that piece; great trigger and comes ready to mount a Leupold Delta Point, which is great for me in terms of quick target acquisition. This is not the cheap option though, at $800 plus another $400 for the optic.
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One final piece to consider, the H&K VP9 - I received one of these as a gift from FONRA, and it is a great little gun. My wife likes to take the H&K to her Well Armed Women events, she just likes the way it feels. Good quality piece.
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Buy something cheap, it won't hurt as much when it is sitting in a evidence locker.
 
Darkstar888 said:
Check out the Walther PPQ (SA) or P99 (DA/SA). Both are striker fired with excellent triggers and world class ergonomics and reliability. Others I would be happy with are a Beretta 92FS, Sig P226/229, HK USP, P2k, or P30.
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PPQ is the way to go.
 
Krav said:
I seem to shoot them well, my EDC is a glock 26, I shoot that as well as my 17. It's the ease a disassemble and upgrades,
Functionality, dependability, and they eat all ammo with no problems that draws me to the glock.

I have had problems with failure to feed cheaper ammo with my CZ. I believe it's the magazine. And they are on the expensive side, magazines.
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A lot of shooters have issues with Glocks shooting low. My son is a Glock, Sig, and HK armorer. He says the Glock is by far the easiest to repair and re sight to POA.
 
1) Don't sell the Wilson; you'll regret it.

2) if it was me I'd go 226. But the CZ is a very nice pistol.
 
If you want a full size 9mm, I would go with either the Sig P226 or the HK USP9. Both are exceptional handguns, used by many professionals across the world. They may cost more than your average pistol, but if it is a gun that is by your night stand... don't cheap out on what could save your life.
 
still have a soft spot for the browning p-35 and colt lightweight commander. it's just that i can't shake off the notion of "why double action when it can be single?"
 
You won't be getting any negatives about CZ from me. I have a CZ P-07, and it absolutely rocks the place. Purchased new about 6 months ago, I've fired all forms and brands of cheap-o blastin' ammo, and never once have I had even a blip of a hiccup. Just cruise the gun web forums, and you'll see that CZ is the rising star. They point well, they're well finished, and they're custom grade accurate right out of the tupperware.

Never mind the complaints about expensive mags. 99% of all shooters will never need any more than the two that come with the gun, and if you need another one, and $40 for a mag is too rich for your blood, you're in the wrong hobby.

Glocks are quite popular for most people, because they fit most people, but you, just like me, are not most people. If they don't fit, they don't fit. Move on.

Sigs are quite nice, exceptionally finished, and accurate. But they're sky high expensive, and (anecdotal) customer service is declining I've heard. Take that with a block of salt.

HK's are the top of the rock as it comes, as far as many are concerned, and it's hard to argue against them. They're spendy, but nice. (Insert expensive mag complaint here.)

Another underdog along with CZ is Walther. The PPQ I've heard great things about, but they're hard to find, around here anyway.

Don't under estimate the S&W lines of plastic ware. I had a 9mm Shield and it was awesome. I gave it to my son in law as a wedding gift.

That's the wondernine world as I see it.
 
Thanks for all the input! I'm doing my best to find a place to shoot these. Best I've found so far has a standard 226 (I want the Scorpion) and the Beretta - no CZ or HK. This is going to be an expensive trip to the range if I find the right one, but what fun!
 
ElConquistador said:
I'd rather have a Glock 17 than any of those you mentioned. You may also consider a 34 if the extra length isn't a problem. Or you could buy both on your budget. Or buy a Glock and a Browning Hi-Power. Or a Glock and a .22 pistol for fun.
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Why would you rather have a Glock over the others mentioned - the SIG, HK etc?

Im honestly interested and take it, that you've handled and shot the SIG and the others extensively?

Why mention the Grand Puissance?
 
MVF said:
Thanks everybody so far. I should have mentioned that Glocks just don't fit my hand. I'm surprised that the CZ is getting negatives. I don't recall seeing anything negative before this (other than the trigger not being wonderful), so that gives me something to think about. Although I see it has fans, too.



Also good to hear that if I go with the Sig I'll be getting my $$ worth. Not really looking to spend the whole price of the Wilson on this gun- I'm looking to fund a scope too (for a Ruger SR762) Keep it coming!
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CZ makes excellent handguns and at one time pretty much revolutionized the handgun, as we know it.

Much like Gaston Glock later did.

But whilst CZ still makes good handguns, their story harks back to the days of yore - a time when there was a gun called a Bren Ten, which didnt become available to the masses prior to the company folding.

Then CZ came along with a great design for both competiotion and SD. The CZ ball rolled from there.

Those times might not be fresh in everybodys mind how ever.

CZ owns a big chunk of the market - not least in Europe.

There is a reason for that.

If you go for the SIG, you will have made n excellent choice, as its a high quality handgun.

After thousands of rounds, Ive yet to experience a malfunction with the 226, which wasnt ammo related.
 
BladeScout said:
Why would you rather have a Glock over the others mentioned - the SIG, HK etc?

Im honestly interested and take it, that you've handled and shot the SIG and the others extensively?

Why mention the Grand Puissance?
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I'm a fan of Glocks. I like that they're simple, reliable, and practical.

I like the Glock trigger. No modern trigger I've tried compares. I like that the trigger pull is consistent for every shot first to last (never was a fan of the sa/da setup). I like the clean break and short crisp trigger reset.

I like that I can completely tear the gun down and put it together with a 3/32" punch and not even use any bad words. Try that with your SIG.

Parts and accessories are readily available. Magazines are cheap. The guns themselves are reasonably priced.

I like Glocks but that doesn't mean that you have to. MVF doesn't like them which is fine with me. Just a suggestion.

The Hi-Power would be a fun gun. Not the most practical for carry but a great range gun. I've always wanted one. That's why I mentioned it.
 
Single action and condition 1 carry is king in full size autoloaders.

CZ75B or P35 Hi Power.

I'd first recommend the Sig 210 or Radom 35 Vis if they weren't stupidly expensive. Still. you really owe to yourself to handle and shoot them if given the chance. Both are among the very finest pistols ever made.
 
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BladeScout said:
All the guns, you mentioned are fine guns though with quite a span in price (as you know). Not a personal fan of the Beretta, but I know Im in the minority there.

The SIG 226 is one of the -if not THE- finest 9mm combat handgun ever made and I personally would go for that having used SIG product (including the 226) quite a lot both on the range and in not so nice countries.

Since you are used to quality and price tag in regards to the Wilson, the hefty price of the 226 wont scare you away and as you say, you'll fund a future purchase by selling the Wilson.

Bill makes some nice guns - and always nice to hang out with him shooting.

In regards to the price of the 226:

“The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”
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The 226 was the first pistol I ever purchased, so it holds a lot of value to me. Unfortunately spare and replacement magazines are neither cheap, nor easy to find. And if I ever had to use it in a worst case scenario, I'd hate to think of it sitting in an evidence room for months or years before I get it back, with no telling what condition it'll be in.

It's reasons such as that, that I picked up a Glock 19. Quality is good, magazines are plentiful and affordable in all manner of capacities, and it can sit indefinitely without rotting or rusting away in less than optimal storage conditions.
 
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