Afraid of overseas trades?

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Hi!

I hope this is the right forum to raise this problem in, if not, just chuck me out.

Are you guys from the US afraid to do trades overseas? I have an RJ Martin Kozuka on offer in the trade forum, and some of the interesting offers have just gone silent after they understand there will be shipping to and from Europe involved. I am just wondering if the location is the problem, or that I am not very vocal on BF, so I'm basically a new guy who nobody knows?
 
no offense to anyone, but i dont do trades/buys/sells/etc out of the US, it is just too much hassle/too much time, to me its just not worth it. oh i guess for the right deal (ie swap a emerson CQC6 custom for some of my BM's, etc) i would, but typically, no. just too many cons for me, not enough pro's..........

and yes, i have done some before. just takes too long/no tracking available(usually)/i like to get my stuff in days, not weeks, and all the trades i've done out of the US have been measured in weeks, one almost a month. just too darned long for me to wait. and also have heard of customs hassles/other probs.

so for me, no, i dont do them anymore, as std practice anyway.

greg
 
Greg,
You know me and if we have a trade you can have yours in a week for sure. :)

I know this thread is for American or who lives in US.
But for me I can do oversea purchase/trade and I have to because most of my favorite makers/brands locate far away from Taiwan.
(Yes one is in Denmark)

I have to pay cash before I have the knife/package, even send my knife to the trader before he sends his out.

Most of the deals are good but some gone in the wrong way and made me feel bad. But basically I'm lucky and know many good guys here.

Joe
 
Shipping stuff internationally has always been a right royal pain. It is understandable that some dealers and sellers dont want the added hassle involved. Form-filling, high shipping costs, long shipping times, overzealous customs officials, and the cheats and thieves that give the rest of us a bad name all combine to put them off.

Wish I had a solution...

Andrew Lim
 
I do understand the potential for major screw-ups, and of course I respect that individual sellers/traders can do without the extra trouble. I just think it's a shame, because it robs me of the wonderful opportunity of trading away blades that no longer thrill me, and getting new pieces whithout laying too much cash on the table. :(

I have bought from US dealers before, without any hassle. Got an ATAK II from AZCK and the RJ Martin Kozuka from Les Robertson. Went smooth as silk. I have limited funds right now, and trading is sorta my only option to get something good. Oh well ...

I'm not here to whine, really. :) There are plenty of online dealers who will accept my money, and I have a Spydie threesome on order from Linda Glasshartt, which will keep me cutting for while. Still, I sorta had in mind to trade that Kozuka for something equally nice :rolleyes:
 
Are you guys from the US afraid to do trades overseas
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No, I'm not afraid. In fact I've done it. Then again, I'm originally from Canada so I know what it's like to get the "we don't do business in foreign countries" brush off from Americans. In my opinion most people are honest, even people who live in foreign countries. I advise you to make your location very clear in any advertisments you post (and update it in your profile). That way anyone contacting you will know your situation in advance. That and offer really good knives at good prices :D.
 
In the past four months, I've done three international trades:
1. The U.K.
2. Belgium
3. Israel
Each of these went off almost problem free. The one that hit a snag was due to me having my lovely bride take a packed up knife to the Post Office, and it had to have a new shipping label made up. I had originally written "Used knife...value $40.00". Unfortunatley, when the missus made up a new label, she didn't see my notation and wrote in "Knife...value $150.00." :o

Bottom line? Blilious had to cough up some dough at his end in duties/fees. I was embarrassed by that, and told him so. It could have been avoided, and I am now working out something with him to make it right. He was gracious enough to say nothing, but I don't want someone I'm doing a trade with to have to eat my mistake.

I have no reservations about trading internationally, and I would suggest that anyone wanting to do so should just check for feedback about your trading partner at GBU, or other feedback areas of the respective forum from where the trade originated. geegee
 
I've done a few deals to Taiwan and Canada, and have had no problems. Maybe I'm just lucky. I don't know. They did take a bit longer to arrive though, however, I've had the USPS lose a big TNT on me inside the US for about a month, so go figure.

I am more cautious with with whom I deal rather than where I deal, and I get most of my background on the potential buyer/seller from the GBU. Good feedback on deals in the GBU usually is a good indicator to me that any potential deal with the party will have a high success rate.

Frank:cool:
 
Hey Payback462,

Don't forget:

...then sell TNT for many coconuts and retire to paradise island!;) :D :p


Frank:cool:
 
or better yet, monitor deals for Tnts on forums, then switch towns assuming different names working for different post offices intercepting trades!
ive got it MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
No one can stop my diabolical PLAN!!!!
the TNT's will be MINE

Note to self: repeat process for blackwoods and snodys.
 
payback462:
NO NO NO, its not a "Used Knife"
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I once sent a knife to a missionary in South America that I used to cut a slice from an apple with. On the box (at his suggestion) it was marked as "Used fruit slicer." Really. ;) :D geegee
 
hey now,i was not talking about joe chen, would deal w/him in a heartbeat, equipment/sheaths are one thing though, knives another, i was talking knives. joes great to deal with i promise i'd swap with you in a heartbeat joe

greg:)
 
SIFU1A,
Same here man, you are a great guy to deal with. :)

BTW Mr. Starczyk from PL if you read this I can't send email to you because your mail server deny my email for the reason like "denied by the policy analysis function". Dont' know why. Sorry.

Joe
 
Well, seems I was I bit premature in my whining (ok so it _was_ whining :) ). Sid Post and I are trading blades, and I sincerely hope that he won't have to regret the deal.
 
I have made several overseas trades with no problems.
Scotland
England
Korea
Singapore(sp?)
Canada
Holland
Israel
Knock on wood-I have only had good dealings with all the people I have traded with.:D
 
Not really afr -- wait, yeah, I guess you could say afraid. I've done half a dozen trades with people outside of the US, and all of them have gone fantastically. I probably won't do many more, if only because of the expense. Canada ended up being cheaper (maybe because it's not overseas) than even sending something a few states away, but Belgium cost me like $21 on a couple of knives I only had $50 in. If the knife I traded /for/ wasn't something I'm going to keep, I'd probably have to take a loss on it, since I have more money in it than I can justify asking for it

With that said, though, the Belgium deal did go /extremely/ well. If you get a chance to deal with Bart, be aware of the cost, but jump on it.
 
JamesA:
If you get a chance to deal with Bart, be aware of the cost, but jump on it.
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Amen to that. A great guy to deal with, great communication, and the chocolate ain't too bad either! :D geegee
 
Nothing against our honest formites from overseas,but for me personally I refrain from transactions outside the US.I have done a couple,but I don't usually.A few of my reasons are,increase in shipping as someone pointed out,shipping a 50.00 knife may cost half its value,another is generally expect longer or delayed shipping times,less ability to track delayed/missing,lost/stolen packages,and less recourse to pursue frauds.It generally is more stress and hassle then what its worth to me personally.Thats my take on overseas deals.
 
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