After a good hunting/tactical fixed blade.

I really like the Becker BK15. Still like the BK7 too. The blackjack Tac ops 6 is awesome but a prototype?

Just need the opinion of someone who uses the Beckers... They decent?
 
Hunting with re-curve bow. My mate runs the compound. The knife is for general purpose, cutting rope, twigs, stuff we find on the trail and things we kill. Also for targets and such.

I need something intimidating if we run into a band of 'locals.' Also need it to be more show should the 1% chance be they turn bad. Be prepared is the motto. I dont intend to ever use it on a person, but will if i have no other option and cannot run away.

You could ditch the bow and do as I do - use a knife only;)

Bring a small nessmuk for skinning.

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The tac-ops come in A standard model with 1095 as well, but the prototypes were done in A2 which i much prefer. They are basically Bark River knives with a different brand name and for a much better price.
 
That general purpose knife you are talking about will be something thin and with about a 3-5 inch blade. Moras are a pretty popular choice.

But it doesn't sound like that is what you want, which is fine. There's no point in saying you want a general purpose knife when it sounds like you want some bad-*ss looking tacti-awesome stabby thing for the 1 time out of 100 (it was 1 time out of 10 earlier in the thread!) you are accosted in the woods by local backwoods ne'er-do-wells. Nothing wrong with that.

Are you trained in any particular knife based-self defense arts? If not than any knife will be equally effective (or ineffective).

So get that Horkos. You like it and it will make you happy.

Just keep in mind that if you pull it on these "locals"....they are going to shoot you with guns. Just sayin'.

Thats the dilema, i want something good for both. I dont even know if it exists... Hence the thread.

Yes your right i do 'want' it too look scary but im being realistic, i will use it 99% of the time to actually use as a knife in the field.

Not trained in knife arts specifically, well a bit of Tanto-Jitsu, but am martial arts and Iaijutsu (japanese sword arts) trained.

The 'locals' dont have guns they spend all their money on alcohol. Savages, the most they would have is a knife.

I really like the Horkos, but from what everyone has said it will be pretty much useless in the field so i may as well carry my CRKT Hissatsu... Im still leaning towards the Becker's, but am unsure how they go.
 
Honestly, you really should just carry two different blades. Get a 3 or 4 inch skinner, a mora or something cheap. Then get that horkos. Or that ridiculously beautiful harsey hunter 2 for intimidation. This is what I plan to do in the field if I dont care about weight. 7 inch crk green beret and a cheap $30 buck omni hunter for animals. And the 4 inch 357 for defense. Spending $300 on a combat knife sounds pretty silly for someone who will never see combat. But i get just as much enjoyment from mine as i do from any user
 
We had a thread about using a knife to scare bad people away (in practical and tactical). IMO any weapon for deterrence is a bad idea, it escalates an encounter.

Here's the thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1040703-Most-Intimidating-Knife?highlight=scare

You can also check out thehighroad.org they have a good strategies and tactics section. The site is a firearms site, but they cover a good bit outside firearms because they aren't an option for everyone.

Good luck on your search.
 
The people i intend to scare are not criminals or 'bad people' they are like animals. Will attack if you have something they want and are an easy target. Have a knife, gun weapons of any sorta and they are very submissive and will leave you right alone.

I think im set of the design like the Becker BK7. Its cheap, i dont really want to be battoning on my $350 Spartan...

Just cant decide between the Ka-Bar, Ontario, Blackjack Tac-ops 6, ESEE 6 or 4. I own an ESEE 5 and love it, its so big, i would get another but want a more dropped point like the Ka-Bar, Ontario and Blackjack. Whats the best?

Im swinging more towards the Becker as the BK13 utility you get with it would be perfect for game and light duties... Not sure need advice, ill get the best i can.
 
If you live there, why aren't you part of the locals? I use a knife for utility purposes. I carry a Glock for self-defense...always.
 
If you live there, why aren't you part of the locals? I use a knife for utility purposes. I carry a Glock for self-defense...always.

'Locals' is our word for them as they were here first (like 100's of years ago first). Trying to say it without sounding racist but i can't fit in with them as my skin is white. In town is all good, civilized but head out into the bush you can be 1000's km from the nearest town. They live in shanty towns out there and if your just wandering along... Well anything could happen. I dont assume anything would, but i see how violent they are in town and out bush is their territory. Cant carry handguns. Rifles take the point out of bow hunting...
 
Sorry to hear. Everyone situation is different though. I know where I hunt, I often have to deal with some thick brush..... might be good to carry a machete..... that would serve two purposes. Then carry a smaller folder for skinning.

I don't think the type of knife will make much difference for you. Just the fact you have one and they see it on your belt.
 
Knives for SD are best concealed so you can use them quickly and unexpected if it came to that. If someone knows you have it they can take it and use it on you and they can attack knowing you have a blade. If you have it in your pocket and they don't know it you may be able to deploy it and use it if your life is in danger and close quarters (grappling). This is why I believe that unless you have blade combat training you should just keep a assisted opening folder in your pocket so that as a last resort you could dig in your pocket, deploy the blade and give them a poke if it comes to that.
 
So im after mainly a fixed blade to go hunting with. Not just for cutting up game, but a multi purpose tool for rope, branches, whatever.

Here is the kicker though, i need something also for self defense. Its very remote out here and let just say the 'locals' can be a bit rough at times.
It would be more a deterrent than anything, i hope it would never come to using it on another person.

What do you guys think? No i dont want to carry two knives. What about the KA-BAR Becker BK7?

Say 90% general camping/hunting use and leave that 10% use for self defense if needed.



Just asking this question raises some questions for me.

Thinking about getting a BK7 for field dressing just seems crazy to me.

Sub 4" knives work best in this role.

Here are the kind of knives I carry when bow hunting.

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As far as self defense.

Knives are very poor self defense tools.

Thinking they're the wise choice as a deterrent is even more foolish.

The fact that you're Bow Hunting, and you seem to think that's less of a deterrent then a knife is equally interesting.


I would re-think the questions your asking.





Big Mike
 
As far as self defense.

Knives are very poor self defense tools.

Thinking they're the wise choice as a deterrent is even more foolish.

The fact that you're Bow Hunting, and you seem to think that's less of a deterrent then a knife is equally interesting.


I would re-think the questions your asking.





Big Mike

All I know is people are much more likely to back down when you draw your bow on them from 20 feet away. A broadhead to the chest will pretty much end things for them given the effectiveness of modern broadheads.
 
Let's try to keep the conversation on the knives and not the "locals." Nothing good is going to come from it.

Thanks

Jason
 
Knives are very poor self defense tools.

Only when compared to a gun. A knife in the hands of an amateur is dangerous to both experts and amateurs alike. They aren't so poor when your opponent has a knife and you do not (provided you don't carry a gun).
 
As far as knives for general use go, the Scrapyard 511 and 711 are a pretty good deal. If you want something more suited for cutting up game, go smaller like an ESEE 3/4 or one of the shorter Bussekin blades.

For defense, carry a gun. Much easier to use and much smarter.
 
Blackjack Model 5. Excellent A2 steel, 5" blade, full guard if you need to defend yourself, and still a usable size for game. Great knife.
 
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