AHHHH!!!!! Problem after de-assisting my 586!

Krissig12 said:
Welp..... I have officially destroyed this knife.

I broke an omega spring while flicking last night, so I figured I would just put the spring and safety back in and ship it off to benchmade for warranty. But when i put it back together with the stuff in, i found that something was causing the liners to be too far apart, which made the axis lock bar become tight between the liners and therefore unusable. By this point the second omega spring had died on me as well. SO... now im left with a broken, tight, springless axis lock. And because the locks gone, I can open it with the original kick, but it wont lock in place either open or closed. Im not kidding..... I have to lock it closed with the safety or else the spring fires it out..... Talk about a dangerous thing to ship to benchmade......

Do you think theyll still fix it for me if I said the lock had mysteriously failed after i tried opening it the first few times? Maybe theyll chock it up to being a lemon that slipped past QC
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Just be honest with them bro. Tell them you tried to deassist it and messed up. You might have to pay a reassembly fee for them to do it, that's just their policy. Whatever you do please don't lie about it, they'll know what happened anyway. Just send that bad boy back, cougb up a few smackers, let them do their thing and enjoy a high quality cutting tool. Regards.
 
They did not break under "normal use". They broke after you messed with it and broke the shit out of it. I have no idea how someone can destroy a knife just trying to deassist it. WTF?
 
I guess ill just fix what i can and send it in for the rest....
And David Lowry, oh yes because stripping a knife down to a bag of parts so that i could remove the safety and spring which is buried deep in the pivot of the knife is just SO easy and couldnt possibly result in a mistake. And no, its not DESTROYED, it just has some broken springs and the rest is put together wrong.
Some harsh posting going on here. This was my first time taking apart a knife beyond just removing scales
 
Krissig12 said:
This was my first time taking apart a knife beyond just removing scales
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Deassisting an Axis Assist is not something to tackle for your first knife. Heck, I've disassembled every single Axis lock knife I've owned and I won't even try to re-assist an assisted Axis.
 
Good to know NOW... LOL Everyone was saying it was so easy so i gave it a go. What a mistake.
But on the bright side, theres been an interesting development. I finally figured out what was causing the axis lock tightness problem. It was the fact that i had put the spring back in. I dont know how, but it must have been seated incorrectly (dispite me trying every possible combo). But When i took it out again, I put the knife together and voila! absolutely flawless. Smooth, rock solid lockup, the axis manipulated well, my previous issue with pivot tightness was inexplicably gone, and it was even centered just right. Only problem that remains is that the springs are still broken and therefore i reassembled it axis-less. Let me tell you, Its one hell of a non-locking knife :D
Is there anyone who could get me some springs? I heard that someone made them out of wire or something.
 
Mail it to Benchmade lol... their warranty service is amazing. They might charge you $20 since you fudged up the knife but don't worry they'll fix it up.
 
Yeah but I didn't fudge up the knife. It's exactly how I want it to be except without the springs. I was just wondering whether someone made aftermarket ones that I could get. I might even try making them myself if I can't find any
 
My suggestion is send it, BKC fix it, and keep it with AA. For your EDC, you can always buy more Benchmade. Heck, I don't think you are Benchmade connoisseur until you have multiple Benchmade blades. You can call it collector when you have multiple type of blade in same model.

I'm sure I don't have to encourage you to buy another Benchmade, as long as your pocketbook allows it.. ;)

MFL
 
Krissig12 said:
Yeah but I didn't fudge up the knife. It's exactly how I want it to be except without the springs. I was just wondering whether someone made aftermarket ones that I could get. I might even try making them myself if I can't find any
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Some folks have made their own out of piano wire...
 
Mobilefirelord, again, I'm not looking to buy anymore knives for now. I swear, you sound like a spokesperson for BKC :)

But loonybin, thanks for the idea. I might give it a shot
 
David Lowry said:
They did not break under "normal use". They broke after you messed with it and broke the shit out of it. I have no idea how someone can destroy a knife just trying to deassist it. WTF?
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It happens, all the time. At least this guy isn't blaming the manufacturer like almost every one else seems to often do. Not everyone is mechanically inclined, which makes me think that automobile manufacturers must have redesigned modern vehicle engine compartments to prevent this exact sort of thing.:)
 
Krissig12 said:
Yeah but I didn't fudge up the knife. It's exactly how I want it to be except without the springs. I was just wondering whether someone made aftermarket ones that I could get. I might even try making them myself if I can't find any
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Sigh. Yes you did fudge it up. You broke the spring.
 
Bigger sigh. If you read my earlier posts, I said the springs broke while i was opening and closing the knife repeatedly as i adjusted the pivot tightness. Opening and closing the knife is considered normal use, is it not? SO, the springs broke separate from my modifications and therefore i did not in fact fudge up the knife. The springs fudged themselves ;)
 
Krissig12 said:
Bigger sigh. If you read my earlier posts, I said the springs broke while i was opening and closing the knife repeatedly as i adjusted the pivot tightness. Opening and closing the knife is considered normal use, is it not? SO, the springs broke separate from my modifications and therefore i did not in fact fudge up the knife. The springs fudged themselves ;)
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Did they break BEFORE you took apart and reassembled the knife incorrectly multiple times?

Take some responsibility.

It matters not. Benchmade will fix it.
 
Krissig12 said:
Bigger sigh. If you read my earlier posts, I said the springs broke while i was opening and closing the knife repeatedly as i adjusted the pivot tightness. Opening and closing the knife is considered normal use, is it not? SO, the springs broke separate from my modifications and therefore i did not in fact fudge up the knife. The springs fudged themselves ;)
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Are you certain you didn't stress the spring during reassembly?
not trying to hammer you, but it's obvious you aren't exactly mechanically inclined and if there was that much pressure on the blade that you couldn't move it and it was way off center, then is it also possible that the springs were pinched as well?
 
Krissig12 said:
Mobilefirelord, again, I'm not looking to buy anymore knives for now. I swear, you sound like a spokesperson for BKC :)
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Yeah, I'm just kidding you. ;) I understand not wanting to buy more knife, but I find AA seems to be build into particular knife. Volli for example, seems to have better balance between spring and blade weight. Also thumb stud seems to be located in awkward location for me to arc my thumb when it is manual.

So I have decided that though when I de-assisted my Barrage 583, Adjusting pivot took a while and each time I need to remove handle. IMO I got Rift 850 instead and put my AA back to the original point.

MFL
 
cncpro11, I am actually somewhat mechanically inclined, but im impatient and often work too quickly in anticipation of the final product. If anything messed up the springs beyond just normal wear, it was me over stressing them while trying to put them back in place. I will admit that its very possible thats what happened.
 
Krissig12 said:
cncpro11, I am actually somewhat mechanically inclined, but im impatient and often work too quickly in anticipation of the final product. If anything messed up the springs beyond just normal wear, it was me over stressing them while trying to put them back in place. I will admit that its very possible thats what happened.
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Thank you for your honesty, surely many here appreciate it.
One thing I have learned over the years is that slow n easy wins the pickle.
 
Ok . I recently de-assisted my volli with success and maybe I can provide some insight. One thing I noticed in this process is that there is a cutout in the scales to accommodate the omega spring . When I reassemble my knife the first time, the spring moved slightly out of place and got clamped between the scale and liner. As the axis rod moves with the tang of the blade this made it impossible to open. Maybe when you reinstalled the scales you were pinching the omega springs? Also had a broken omega spring. Which probably happened when a clamped the spring. I just modified an older griptilian spring to fit and.. it works great ! Anyway good luck!
 
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