AI Knives

jlauffer said:
I think it just stands for artificial intelligence?😁
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And it's neither. Nothing more than glorified chatbot spyware that techbros hustled to investors, now they gotta pay it all back so they shove it down people's throats at every opportunity. AI this AI that, how about you get a real job instead of trying to make others jobs more difficult than they need to be. I swear I'm "THIS" close to taking a giant magnet with "ACME" written on it to "Big AI HQ" and sending it. Ted Kaczynski was right.
 
Man, as far as I'm concerned, it's a tool but also a fun toy. Like a computer. Or a gun. It has its uses, and it has its dangers. Like computers and guns.

AI generated calamari anyone? 🤣

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And why not revisit "generate an image of a variety of Tactical Folding Knives" in 2025, eh chevyrulez1 chevyrulez1 ?

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Looks like it still needs some significant hand holding, even over a year later. Let's try to get it to make one usable decent looking tactical folder.

"Generate one tactical folding knife. Handle length 4.5", blade length 4.1", there should be less than 1/4" of unsharpened ricasso area. Handle is peel ply black G10. Blade has a spear point blade shape, single edged, and veff serrations from the heel to .5" from the tip."

Here some of its tries:

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And look it tried to make an M16! But someone didn't finish hand grinding the serrations! 🤣
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Would NOT want to deal with THAT proprietary hardware!
 
David Mary said:
Man, as far as I'm concerned, it's a tool but also a fun toy. Like a computer. Or a gun. It has its uses, and it has its dangers. Like computers and guns.

AI generated calamari anyone? 🤣

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I can see it as a supplementary tool for medical procedures, strategic analysis, aiding in looking for engineering weak points, etc. As long as man is using the AI as an instrument and not the other way around.

But I vehemently disagree in using it for any creative endeavors. Art, creative writing, knife making. It feels like an insult to the human creative spirit. And some of those AI art prompts just straight up steal material from original works.

I’m open to learning more about the pros of AI since I’m no tech expert, but as of now, it’s a firm no for me dawg.

I’ve seen Terminator 1 and 2. Skynet ain’t our friend.
 
DangerZone98 said:
I vehemently disagree in using it for any creative endeavors.
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I think I understand how you feel, but I also think it’s a discussion admitting of considerable nuance.
 
The concern about preserving the integrity of human creativity is valid, especially in an age when machines are increasingly encroaching on spaces traditionally seen as uniquely human. But I see AI differently: as a tool to facilitate human expression and ingenuity, not a replacement for it.

Analogy

Imagine telling someone who has lost the ability to walk that they shouldn’t use a wheelchair because walking is a deeply human activity. Most of us would never dream of denying them that tool, because we recognize that technology can empower people to participate more fully in life, not diminish their humanity.

Not everyone has the motor skills, time, training, or even financial resources to draw or paint well, but they still have creative visions, emotions to express, stories to tell. Why shouldn’t they have tools that help them bring those to life?
 
I'm actually almost impressed with this one.... until you learn that the prompt was "Fixed blade knife for EDC on a white background" 🤣

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All these were created using the same prompt:

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So humans is still very much needed.
 
Having looked at the pics in the original, I'm torn. Clearly, these would be atrocious knives, if they were real, but as pictures, they're neat to look at. We can make fun of the knives, but honestly, if we were watching a sci-fi movie, and there was a John Wick 2 style getting kitted up scene, and the guy asks for a knife and they pulled out a drawer, I'd expect to see something very much like those pics. So, hate it, generally dislike AI generated "art", but as something to look over while on a slow work day, not the worst I've seen.

I'm generally semi-impressed at how hard the algorithm works to try to make these look like pictures of a real, physical object.
 
Arathol said:
It appears that the AI has no real concept of what knives actually are or how they function. What seems to have happened is the system searched the web for tactical knives, then looked at those images for common themes and shapes. It then interpolated what it found and applied its findings to make pictures of knives using form without regard to function. This is most evident with the placement of pocket clips. The shape is identified as a common design element, but it seems that the function of a pocket clip is not taken in to consideration and the AI is just placing them randomly as some sort of decorative piece.
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This, in a nutshell, is why the term "AI (Artificial Intelligence) is actually A. a misnomer and B. untrue, as what's actually going on isn't the result of any sort of intelligence, rather an algorithm operating with a specific set of parameters. If AI was a real thing, it would have taken in the pages these pictures were from as well, and been able to learn what all the parts of a knife were, and write a new subroutine on the spot that made sure that "When asked to design a folding knife, it needs to have the following features....". Instead, this dumb "Mash pictures together from all the pictures I was able to find on the innerwebz, it'll be fine!" is what we get instead.

AI, heh, no.
 
We see the output here from a text to image model. It is not in any way an engineering system. Sooner or later, we will see these systems merged with engineering systems, if they don't already exist. What we see at the consumer level is older tech, the real good stuff is behind closed doors.
 
SharpBits said:
We see the output here from a text to image model. It is not in any way an engineering system. Sooner or later, we will see these systems merged with engineering systems, if they don't already exist. What we see at the consumer level is older tech, the real good stuff is behind closed doors.
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As you've already inferred, but the issue is, the same issues present here, are present there as well. An actual "artificial intelligence" is generally defined by sentience. No sentience? Then it's just a machine learning algorithm with a ton of pitfalls. There are no sentient artificial intelligences behind closed doors, and there are no algorithms on either side of the door that can take a mass amount of data, extrapolate accurate information from incorrect, or misinformation, and present that to the user as an output.

Now, if your job is something that consists of doing a series of repetitive spreadsheet based tasks or other such basic things? Yeah, your job is probably in question at some point. Does your job involve making complex decisions with complex data that will require multiple "Well...it depends..." rational analyzation at some point? If so, then no, "ai" won't be doing your job anytime soon.

"How can you know that?"

Easy. If we had such technology, self-driving cars would already be a thing (a real thing, as in, you could buy it at your dealership right now today). Until they figure out something "smart" enough to correctly be able to decide "who gets to live" in the case of a complex auto accident, your job is safe.

There is no version of an "AI" algorithm tool owned by any company anywhere that's tremendously, generationally more advanced than these cheap AI apps you can download onto your phone. More sophisticated, but possessing the same logic errors.

- Signed, a guy in the technology and cybersecurity industry

ETA: Forgot to add another example. How do we know there aren't any companies with mega advanced "AI" out there? Simple. If they had it, you'd know it because that company would have a valuation in the tens of trillions.
 
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