Air cleaners- Allergies, reactions, dust

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I saw JWgriesser posted right before regarding dust collection but didn't want to hijack his thread. I don't want a dust collection per se, but do need an air cleaner like the jet AFS 1000B. Just curious if any of you are running a cleaner and if so how do you like it.
 
It's far better to capture the dust at the source then to try to filter the air afterwards. It does not have to be full on DC but down draft tables.and such work well.
 
I agree Steve and I do most all of my grinding and 99% of sanding in my garage that gets sucked out the window via a harbor freight collector. The problem I am having is with all the detail stuff in my basement like minor band saw cuts for handles, buffer, detail sanding, and cleanup dust. I ran my shop vac the other night and wasn't thinking but it had old phenolic and wood dust inside that blew out the exhuast and it almost made me sick again, so I need to clean that out and get a new filter for it as well. I am becoming hypersensitive and want to keep all the minute stuff out of my house.
 
I saw JWgriesser posted right before regarding dust collection but didn't want to hijack his thread. I don't want a dust collection per se, but do need an air cleaner like the jet AFS 1000B. Just curious if any of you are running a cleaner and if so how do you like it.

Jerry Bussee has a woodworking magazine article on this.

It's a box, a fan and an air filter or two.

You can diy for hundreds less than that commercial unit.


Do both, get it at source and from the air
 
The wen unit is only $130. I tried a box fan and has nowhere near the CFM required, especially since my nearest basement window is about 30 feet away
 
I have the afs 1000b and I love it, I'm amazed at how much is still left in the air after collection. I agree that if I had a downdraft table that would probably be much less. Also look into getting a dust deputy to attach to the shop vac for when you are working with phenolic and wood. It will make your filter last a lot longer

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They now make inexpensive, washable HEPA filters for shop vacs. You don't even have to change the filter when vacuuming liquids.
 
The wen unit is only $130. I tried a box fan and has nowhere near the CFM required, especially since my nearest basement window is about 30 feet away

I don't think you understand the concept.
The fan doesn't require a window. It recirculates the air IN your shop, through the filter.
 
I have this one.

It's quite. I like the timer. I like the remote.

They're pretty simple machines. Just a fan in a box with a filter. But the timer, speed settings, remote, make it nice rather than just making one myself that was on/off.

You'll be surprised at how much crap it pulls out of the air.

Thanks Kuraki
 
Most of my dust now comes when I take sheets off my cnc router.
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The wen unit is only $130. I tried a box fan and has nowhere near the CFM required, especially since my nearest basement window is about 30 feet away

I didn't say a box fan

I said

It's a box, a fan and an air filter or two.

If you buy their thing, you are stuck buying their filters.

Build your own using larger, cheaper, more common furnace filters.

Furnace motors and fans are dirt cheap, as more efficient furnaces get put in, the old stuff is scrapped.
 
I didn't say a box fan

I said



If you buy their thing, you are stuck buying their filters.

Build your own using larger, cheaper, more common furnace filters.

Furnace motors and fans are dirt cheap, as more efficient furnaces get put in, the old stuff is scrapped.

Understood and I will look into it but it still seems cheaper and easier to spend the $129 even if I have to buy their filters. The wen unit claims filtering up to 1 micron and I assume equivalent micron furnace filters aren't cheap. Time is also money and I'd rather make knives and hang with my kids than searching for parts and building it. I'm not trying to come off as a dick I just want to build less shit the older I get.
 
They now make inexpensive, washable HEPA filters for shop vacs. You don't even have to change the filter when vacuuming liquids.
I put a bag in my shop vac as well as the filter. The filter alone was getting clogged pretty quickly. With the addition of the bag, I am going way longer with good suction. I don't know how much longer, as I haven't had to change it yet. I want a dust deputy, but haven't had time to look into them yet.
 
I put a bag in my shop vac as well as the filter. The filter alone was getting clogged pretty quickly. With the addition of the bag, I am going way longer with good suction. I don't know how much longer, as I haven't had to change it yet. I want a dust deputy, but haven't had time to look into them yet.

I don't understand- the HEPA filter is installed where the paper filters go. I don't think you can use both.
You may be talking about the foam filter that is used for wet-vaccing.
 
If you have a HEPA filter in a shop vac, putting a felt or paper bag in the canister to trap the dust will help keep the filters clean of the bigger debris, But what will eventually clog your HEPA filters is the tiny dust, which is going to sail right through the felt bag. Been there, done that, and for my shop, self cleaning HEPA filter vacuums are the way to go. I'll still put a bag or cyclone on the vac, because even self cleaning filters have to be cleaned or replaced eventually and keeping the big sticky stuff off the filters helps.

As for hanging air filters, if they are using furnace filters, that's not good enough. That "filtering to 1 micron" only happens when the filters are fully loaded, and the unit is barely moving any air. Anyway, you really want to be filtering down to .5 micron or smaller, that takes at least MERV 15 filter material. I've yet to see a commercial hanging air filter with a filter that good. I have seen a couple versions of home made ones with MERV 15 or HEPA filters on the web.

Down draft tables are another thing I have been greatly disappointed by. I thought I could solve some dust issues in my shop with one. I spent over a year researching, going to trade shows, etc.. The vast majority of tables out there have poor filters, and/or don't move enough air to get those really small dangerous particles. There are a couple that use MERV 15 or better filters, but poor design means the filters are guaranteed to clog quickly, and any with a table big enough for our uses didn't move enough air. I'm focusing my efforts now on trying to catch the dust at the tools, with mixed success.
 
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