Airplane PSK

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With the every increasing restrictions of our nanny state, I try to fly as infrequently as possible and drive instead. But that isn't always possible. However, it isn't possible to bring most of the things onto a plane that many of us would normally include in a PSK.

So, in light of the situation, I'm curious what items do you bring on a plane, if any, with survival in mind?
 
A very sturdy pen is about all I would take with me onto a plane. Anything else will go into my checked luggage. And I would make a point not to pack anything that I hold ear and dear to my heart. A Mora and an SAK would be the most that I would pack into my checked bags, but that's just me.
 
Did TSA recently relax restrictions on some items?

Bic type lighter.
Small scissors.
Small containers of hygiene/makeup chemicals.
[Petroleum Jelly is useful in a PSK.]
 
I have carried on an AMK PSP for the last two years and it has never been even looked at. I also have been carrying EMT shears and they have not been scrutinized either.
Bics are OK too.
Recently I forgot to remove a key chain knife.......still got it......
 
I seem to remember that the liquids have to be carried
in a special way: in a container of appropriate size and
all containers in a clear plastic bag. For example,
containers of an 11 ounce size can not be used for
3 ounces of liquid.

edit:
I do not remember if containers have to be "original".
 
Hmmmm, this is a good question, it has been asked in the past, but I don't recall seeing any definitive conclusions. The first things that come to mind would be things you would need "immediately" in case of an emergency.

If you are able to get to your packed luggage, then it may not be a a big deal, it means you are safe and the plane is in tact. At this point you are way ahead of the game.

Flashlight: rough landing in a farm field at night, yeah, a flashlight would be a big help.
Even on a cloudy day, plane cabins get pretty dark when the lights go out.

Knife/edged tool: This is the bummer with the safety restrictions, what do you carry as a substitute? I might try a SeberTool, something small, not so expensive you couldn't have it confiscated, but, built well enough to be able to give you an "edge".
I'm guessing a Leatherman Squirt or SAK would be verboten for carry-on. That's the rub.

If they are now allowing a bottle of water, that is a no brainer, get the bigger bottle, not the 12 ozer.

Goretex jacket shell in your carry-on? Wrecked in the Andes is no place to be in your shirtsleeves. ;)

Signal mirror: can be seen 100 miles away on a clear day. We can't assume we will crash land near an urban area. They still haven't found "WhatsHisFace" out west.

What else? Not being able to Carry-on a decent blade, and SAK, anything is a bummer, but we all understand why, right?
 
Flashlite, nail clippers, ear plugs, gum, USB drive. Book, jacket, change of socks and underwear, small FAK, towel, toiletries in my carryon. Everything else is either too likely to be confiscated (remember, everything is at the discretion of the screeners- why do you think iPods looked dangerous a few holidays seasons ago?) or you probably don't need it while in the passenger cabin. What do you think will happen? The aircraft will crash? If you are a survivor of such an incident, it is going to look like the whole world is showing up in a few minutes.

Get it there or ship it ahead. You couldn't get me to check luggage at this point.
 
If you own a plane, carry what you want. :D

If you are talking about an airliner, unless you're flying over the Andes or something, I wouldn't worry about it. Seems rather odd for me to be saying that, but they will have people on the ground double-quick-chop-chop and about the only legal thing to carry on that would be of any use is a FOX-40 and you don't need that.

Bush Flying and Private Pilots are something else entirely.
 
I fly often. To save time, I only take one carry-on bag. I don't take anything I am not prepared to loose. My complication is after getting off the plane; I drive long distances in rural or mountainous regions. With all the flights I take, buying supplies after each flight becomes a major financial burden. Here is what I did last week, a typical week.

1. Leave a detailed trip plan with my wife. I call home daily with progress. If I don't call home, she knows whom to contact and where to start looking.
2. Cell phone, signal mirror, Fox 40 whistle, modified Mini-Mag light with the IQ switch for flash (SOS) signaling. I hope to save enough money for a PLB, but that will be many more months (assuming no issues at home).
3. Bic lighter and some vaseline soaked cotton balls (work great on dry skin and don't ruin things like a leaking tube of vaseline).
4. Two 45 gallon trash bags, two 1 gallon ziplock bags, and two 1 qt ziplock bags.
5. Watch cap, leather work gloves, and a sun hat.
6. Trail mix for two meals.
7. Purchase one gallon of drinking water at a local market (generally 99 cents) before hitting the road after the flight. I often buy some fruit at the same time.

You can take small scissors on board, which I do. Check with the TSA website for the latest list of acceptable items. All liquids are in small containers that fit within one 1 qt ziplock bag, placed separately in the tray to go through the Xray.

Treat the TSA people with respect, even when they are giving you a hard time. It is hard but possible. If someone is on a power trip, it takes the fun out of it for them and they let you go. Most of the TSA people are good people trying to do a good job. They appreciate it if you show them a little respect. Trust me, they get enough sh_t each day from inconsiderate people. You don't have to add to their grief.

Spud
 
I take the AMK PSP in my carry on almost everytime. It's never been checked. I also take a few other things that probably shouldn't be taken, but they've never been checked either.
 
The reason for the totally insane "small bottles in a plastic bag rule" is totally BOGUS. Like the WMDs Saddam were supposed to have ready to launch. Some nutjob teenagers allegedly were planning to blow up planes with liquids. They did not have the chemicals, they did not have any plane tickets and they were not arrested anywhere near an airport and the judges threw the case far away. The EU countries are trying to lift that now because it costs too much.

During the early 1980-something planes were hijacked back and forth in Europe. There was planes hijacked almost once a week by the liberation front of this and that. Back then you could carry knives and guns on the plane and noone bothered. But just after some people flew planes into WTC (disregarding who did it and why and if it was a conspiracy etc) the most crazy rules were enforced. The rules have no meaning but to scare the Average Joe. What is the meaning with carry on stuff anyway? If you buy the tax free stuff when you ARRIVE it will most likely save lots of tons of fuel as well.
 
Even if that shoe bomber guy had suceeded the plane wouldnt go down. He would most likely have blown his foot off and maybe injured the one sitting next to him. The thing that the plane will exlode from the pressure loss is just a Hollywood myth.
 
The reason for the totally insane "small bottles in a plastic bag rule" is totally BOGUS.

I agree.

Some nutjob teenagers allegedly were planning to blow up planes with liquids. They did not have the chemicals, they did not have any plane tickets and they were not arrested anywhere near an airport and the judges threw the case far away. The EU countries are trying to lift that now because it costs too much.

I don't know all of the particulars in the case but would like to put forth the idea that had we stopped..."stopped" the 19 hijackers on the morning of September 11, 2001, someone would have stepped forward and said, "Oh come on! Nineteen young men were going to hijack four airliners and kill the pilots with boxcutters? That's bullshit!"

But it happened.

During the early 1980-something planes were hijacked back and forth in Europe. There was planes hijacked almost once a week by the liberation front of this and that. Back then you could carry knives and guns on the plane and noone bothered.

Wow! You learn something new every day! I was not aware that you could carry a firearm on an airplane in Europe during that time! We couldn't here unless we checked it in. Or, what exactly are you trying to say? Hunters, for example, as far as I know, can still check a hunting rifle in and fly with it...they just cannot have it on them.

Knives, well, the Government and/or some airlines had a real problem with serrated knives like some Spydercos, etc., they didn't like that terrible aggressive look...ludicrous but true. But you could carry something like a Sebenza and your Kubotan on your keychain would be confiscated. You couldn't carry a Kubotan because it was a "weapon" but a pocketknife was just a pocketknife. My, how times change.

But just after some people flew planes into WTC (disregarding who did it and why and if it was a conspiracy etc) the most crazy rules were enforced. The rules have no meaning but to scare the Average Joe.

Yeah...nose hair trimmers were my favorite confiscated item.

It makes for an excellent business on E-bay, however, check it out some time. Nothing like the smell of theft.

I'm sure the people that own the little shops with the captive audience inside airports love the new rules so they can pump their Evian, Desani and Deer Park water along with other hand creams, etc., at outrageous prices. You pay or you don't get to take it onboard, etc.

Even if that shoe bomber guy had suceeded the plane wouldnt go down. He would most likely have blown his foot off and maybe injured the one sitting next to him. The thing that the plane will exlode from the pressure loss is just a Hollywood myth.

Actually, I don't think he would have blown his foot off as he had the shoe trying to light it to place it against the window of the plane.

I don't know if it would have went down or not but I damned sure wouldn't want to be on the plane that suffered such an instantaneous decompression.

Would the "shoe bomb" have went off? Don't know. I will never know. The government lies like criminals now anyway. No one will know. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that you have to take your shoes off now. You know what's coming next.

Don't fly. Don't give them your money. Best way to handle the situation. Don't expose yourself to their silliness.

I might have to pull Jury Duty, other things might happen and I might have to enter some governmental logic free zone and have to leave certain things like Kubotans and pocketknives in the car. These things are beyond my control. However, I don't have to give airlines and the government my money for travel. Here, you pay your security fee and then get treated like a piece of shit. The American People might possibly wake up one day and defund this stuff if they have to get the finger wave before they have to board. I doubt it though.
 
I don't think that I saw it mentioned here but do you think they would have a problem with the firesteels? Don't know why they would but you never know. I thought I would ask.
 
i just came from a plane, but i dont see how u can carry scizzors, water bottles, mirrors and many other things u guys talk about through handluggage security
 
from the TSA website:


Safety Razors - including disposable razors. Yes Yes

Scissors - plastic or metal with blunt tips. Yes Yes
Scissors - metal w/ pointed tips/blades shorter than 4" Yes Yes



you can check out the complete list of what can be carried on or checked at their website:

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm

i've gotten through with small knives by mistake more than once, when I forgot to remove my knife from pocket prior to going through security.
 
ah i see, but thats for local flights in usa

if u go from country to country, u'd probably have to find a site for each country and then alter the contents of ur psk accordingly

as its local customs that search evrything

and i travelled back from poland to belgium yesterday and the polish customs agents were jerks but the belgians (when going the other way) were okay
 
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