Al Mar Sere 2000, Who likes it?

[burf151]

Hey guys, thanks for your input! I thought I would mention the pocket clips. I was expecting them to be bright stainless, but both were black. I knew the mini was supposed to have a black clip, but the full size does too. Bonus! Well, I am carrying the full size today instead of my BM 950, 880, or 940. I hope I have to cut something today.

 

[dennis75]

Hey Garth, Maybe your problem with liner-locks is you have been stabbing all those brick walls out there that seem to attack people unprovoked! I use the h*## out of a couple of my liner-locks and have no problems.I also have many frame-locks so I know the difference and in a well made liner-lock,you can depend on them.

Buy the way,your saying sounds very similar to a saying WE Americans have thrown around over here. "The DUMB leading the BLIND" or "The BLIND leading the DUMB" you choose which depending on the need.

MPE

ah fuggedaboudid, Garth needed some venting, who can blame him. who cares, let it be, it's cool Garth ...right guys ?

to each his own is the key. some people cannot get used to liner-locks, some people hate lockbacks, some people are disgusted by non-locking slipjoints......ah well, who cares?

denn

 

[Nathan S]

I had a SERE 2000. I found it to be too much handle and not enough blade. Plus, mine failed the spine whack test with frightening ease.

 

[Garth]

venting?
Well, it seems to me as if some guys here are pretty sensitive.

I just said, I don´t like liner locks. What´s the problem?

There is no way, I will ever trust a knife with it´s blade being secured by a paper thin piece of steel. I´ve cut myself often enough. One time even with one of these well made liner locks.
I never had an axis- arc- back or framelock fail on the other hand.

That´s my personal opinion based on my own experiences.
MPE, I surely don´t stab bricks with my knives. So maybe you could explain that "dumb/blind" thing to me, as I´d obviously tend to get it wrong...

 

[bladeprince]

I had a SERE 2000. I found it to be too much handle and not enough blade. Plus, mine failed the spine whack test with frightening ease.

This is a a knife build for tough jobs. The large handle helps with a secure grip.

Short blade? It's 3.5" and it's a short blade? I don't want all my knives to be 4" or larger. This knife was build for SERE training. It's supposed to be tough, which it is. Four inches would be too much for this knife, meaning too heavy. It may not be for everyone but for what it is designed for, it's almost perfect. I'd never sell mine and also picked up the Al Mar Operator. Another "take anything" knife.

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SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape) is a U.S. military program that provides service members with training in the Code of Conduct, survival skills, evading capture, and dealing with being taken prisoner. The program is intended to train aircrews, special forces, and other service members who operate in dangerous areas and are thus more likely to be captured. It was created by the Air Force at the end of the Korean War but was expanded to the Army and the Navy after the Vietnam War.
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Spin whack failure? Not mine. Your knife was defective and should have been sent back to Al Mar for replacement or repair.

Anyone else ever have a SERE 2000 fail a spine whack test? I'd bet almost no one.

 

[Dog Man]

There is no way, I will ever trust a knife with it´s blade being secured by a paper thin piece of steel.

You must have some pretty thick paper in your neck of the woods. I own a ****load...which is half a boatload...of liner locks, and the thinnest is pretty substantial, and the thickest are downright massive. The SERE 2000 liner is fully half the thickness of the blade, and that's a thick blade. But to each his own.

 

[bladeprince]

There is no way, I will ever trust a knife with it´s blade being secured by a paper thin piece of steel.

Yeah, that's why I bought one. I just love those paper thin liners on the SERE 2000. I don't know why every liner lock doesn't have them this thin. Where do you get your information?

Click on image to enlarge.

 

[gordonk]

This is a a knife build for tough jobs. The large handle helps with a secure grip. If they had made the blade longer with the heavy duty handle, I think it would have been uncomfortable in the pocket. Plus, at 3.5 inches, it's legal to carry in more states.

Spin whack failure? Not mine. Your knife was defective and should have been sent back to Al Mar for replacement or repair.

Anyone else ever have a SERE 2000 fail a spin whack?

Nope - my SERE 2K is one of my backup folders in my Jumbo Fatboy. For me, it is a bit heavy to carry in my pocket. I also carry a BM 710D2 when I wear cargos and it's nicer from a pocket carry side. It's definitely a tank of a knife but it does have excellent fit and finish. No regrets here

- gord

 

[Garth]

Oh, some of the sensitive ones are jokers also .

To me this liner is thin, and that´s that. I got my informations from handling Sere-2000s. If that is enough legitimation for you, of course.

As some of you said: to each it´s own (even though I don´t value that saying for some reason...). And as I said before: thats my personal opinion. I never claimed it to be universally valid.


Some people here should maybe drink a little less coffee .

 

[MPE]

You know, I don't even drink coffee! Oh, I know what it was, I forgot to take my medication. Hold on just a second.................................There we go.Now I see your point! I'm selling all my liner locks ASAP.These things are way to thin.No,better yet,takem all.hehehe

MPE

 

[Garth]

You know, I don't even drink coffee! Oh, I know what it was, I forgot to take my medication. Hold on just a second.................................There we go.Now I see your point! I'm selling all my liner locks ASAP.These things are way to thin.No,better yet,takem all.hehehe

MPE

congrats, very well done. What´s your age? 16? 14?
You just don´t get it. I stated a personal opinion. Maybe you do not know, that that´s what a forum is about.

I don´t give a crap about what you do with your knives .

 

[MPE]

I thought it was. But also thought things needed to be lightened up a bit so I thru in some of that sensative joker's stuff.

MPE

 

[burf151]

I have an ***load of liner locks (half a ****load or a quarter of a boatload)
And like them very well. The Al Mar has more engagement of the lock with the tang than my BMs. I don't trust my digits to just the integrity of a mechanical design. I kind of handle every folding knife like a slip joint cause that's all I had growing up. And I did have a couple dramatic cases of knives closing on my fingers. I did have one of my BMs locks fail recently too. My mini stryker closed on my fingers cause I was doin' what I ought not be doin'. In any case if I need a fixed blade for a job, I use that cause I have a lot of those that can always use an excuse to come out.

 

[Bastid]

Let's chill out a little take a deep breath, no one's life is on the line here. .

 

[MPE]

Surely buy a SERE,you will like it.Maybe even the mini if you think the regular is to heavy.I also like their fixed blade knives as well.

MPE

 

[Larry S.]

I feared we would all be better served by trading in our SERE 2000's for Dork Ops models containing blood grooves for awhile there.....

 

[Nathan S]

This is a a knife build for tough jobs. The large handle helps with a secure grip.

Short blade? It's 3.5" and it's a short blade? I don't want all my knives to be 4" or larger.

I'm sure that the SERE's handle is easier to hang on to than some other knives. However, the real punt is proportion. I didn't say the blade was short, I said that there was too much handle and not enough blade. In other words, I found the handle to be disproportionately large with respect to that blade.

Spin whack failure? Not mine. Your knife was defective and should have been sent back to Al Mar for replacement or repair.
Anyone else ever have a SERE 2000 fail a spine whack test? I'd bet almost no one.

Actually, spine whack failure is not unheard of in the SERE 2000. And I'm not sure mine was "defective", in the sense that I got a bad one. Mine locked up with what seemed like bank vault security. No blade play. A hard hit on the spine would not cause it to budge, but, oddly enough, a light tap with the palm of my hand could sometimes (not all the time, but anyway too frequently for my peace of mind) cause the lock to fail.

And, no, the security of the lock does not depend on the thickness of the liner.

My hard use folders of choice, the ones a trust my fingers to, are CRKs and Striders.

 

[bladeprince]

To me this liner is thin, and that´s that. I got my informations from handling Sere-2000s. If that is enough legitimation for you, of course.

Well, you're either blind or overweight. Either can throw off what a person thinks is "thin".

 

[Cougar Allen]

Gentlebeings, this forum is for talking about knives, not about people. The moderators are not going to keep posting warnings indefinitely.

 

[WadeF]

Here are some pictures of the SERE 2000's liner lock. I have a picture of where it engages the blade, and a picture of where metal has been remove which is probably to help it spring into the locking position, then I have a picture of the SERE 2000 next to a Benchmade 710HSSR (wish I bought the plain edge version, but oh well):

Here you can see where a good portion of the locking liner's metal has been removed and thinned out. I wonder how much the lock's strength is compromised as a result: