Al Mar Sere (Attack)?

There is some very good info in this thread that I've not seen before, thanks. I have a 3003b from the mid 80s as far as I know. On the side of the blade opposite the Al Mar logo it is marked PP 156 /200. Any one know what this means?
Yeah, it means; DON'T SELL Take good care of this baby.
It is like 'mesoscopic' says. Pre Production. Al always wanted to trie out a model before producing it.

@wouter1967: Awesome photos ! :thumbup: I didn't manage to find these sort of info through Googling.
However, I did find some useful information from an "Al Mar Wiki" site, which might be of interest to Al Mar Knives fans.

http://almarknives.wikia.com/wiki/Al_Mar_Knives_Wiki
I know this wiki site. It is started/put togeher by one of the other guys from the AMK forum. Anyone who has info can share it, thats the great part of it. Thanks for letting us know, I forgot about it.


BTW, a very high potential place to find an Al Mar in time is Cutlers Cove.
http://cutlerscove.com/company/folding-knives.htm

Cheers to you all
 
mine is like the one in the top pic of woutters post, except a black sheath, 4.2" blade, micarta handles, not that i wanna sell it but what the heck are those worth nowadays?

mine will go to my son (i have had it almost 30 yrs now lol, why sell it?) but it would be nice to know.

more than $150 i would wager lol.

the last time i had it outta the safe was '00 or so, i was comparing it to a new SERE and was suprised how much smaller the new one was.
 
SIFU1A, that's a wager I want no part of..............;)
You and your son are lucky men!!

Regards,
Ranger325
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I remember those ads in SOF magazine, I always liked the looks of Al Mar's designs, still do actually but they don't seem to have the same "flow" as the older designs. Still have a good rep though.

Thanks all for sharing your pics, etc.
 
This SERE2000 might not look as chique, but it has got excelent F&F. Its a wonderfull smooth and well designed EDC/tactical.

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I was searching trying to identify a Al Mar SERE style knife.
I have one that looks like Wouter1967 above (pictures attached) except....
  • The Special Forces logo is lighter on mine. The one above looks mine if missing the "paint" after engraving.
  • The AL MAR Logo is in a different place
  • Mine does not say SEKI City on the opposite side just the number 587 (maybe a serial number or model number).
  • Blade Length is about 4.5" and OAL = 10.125"

Any idea on the model number, what the 587 means?, and what year it was made. I got this knife from an inheritance.

-Paul (aka pcb105)
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WOW talk about bringing up an old thread. At first i got excited then realized how old it is.

But as far as the recent question by Colorado, it was probably AUS 6. Kind of lame by todays standards, but these large original "tactical folders" came out before spyderco's small one-handers and their clips. The Al Mar blade was so thick, it didn't matter (no worries of breakage with reasonable use). Didn't hold an edge for long but easy to resharpen, "good enough for government work" like a real military knife.

Some say there was a few early ones with stronger carbon SK-5 blades like with early SOG Tigersharks but this is highly debated.

Here's my large one (3003), at the very top with the original sheath:
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It's hard to date the exact years they were offered since the cool japanese catalogues listed earlier dont show dates.
From what I gathered there were 2 runs of the "green beret / special forces / de opressor liber" series. late eighties and the mid to late nineties.
I think i read the differences can be told by their boxes the easiest, but are rarely shown.
The first run of the largest size had the larger brown sheath with no Al Mar logo on it, only the Special Forces symbol and NO Sharpening stone pocket and the blade said seki-japan. Just like mine shown in the pic.
the later run may have come with a different sheath, the one more commonly seen with the other non Special Forces stamped bolsters, that were narrower and came with 2 pockets, one for the sharpener, i think the second run came in camo cordura and the blade said something else (moki or AMK?).
It's harder to date the smaller ones (3002/3001) since they all came with the same smaller soft folding velcro nylon sheath.
It gets complicated since after Al Mars death (1992) and the buying out / restructuring of the company, there was an overlap when they cancelled orders and changed manufacturers and the old manufacturer continued to finish the number of ordered knives and still put them out into the market. Same quality knife but technically without the Al Mars companies permission, that's why they were considered "fake". I heard some of the second "SF" series may have fell under this, hence the confusion.

As mentioned much earlier, I agree that the ones with numbered stampings on the TANG and NO MAKER were more than likely pre production tryout runs and/or for special distributers to try out and were EARLY seki SEREs. Later on they stamped the TANG normaly and put a P/P (Pre Production) and number along the side of the spine of the blade. they continue to do the later, to this day.

I believe the GREEN rubber handles SERE was not part of the very first SF run, but is still rare and collectible. but like the black rubber one, the handle tends to get destroyed easy from use due to pocket and sheath wear/heat/sweat and fell apart. This is why MINT examples are so valueable. It's common to see damaged black rubber ones with imperfect handles on internet auction sites. The brown/black layered micarta was much more durable and user friendly.

Sorry nothing is exact but hope this helps anyone, or feel free to add to it / make corrections.
 
Nostimos, thank you for the info. Was looking at buying a 3003, leather sheath, I guess rubber scales if that is what the second knife in your photo has. Essentially looks like the second knife in your photo but has a 4 inch blade with no serrations, I'd rate it it 95%
 
Greetings all!!
I'm going to resurect my Al Mar SERE thread with another question. This time it deals with Stag Scales. Anybody have one - pics? one of the few I've seen is in the ad from Japan above. Were they only made in the SF series? Rarity? Any other info greatly appreciated!!

Regards,
Ranger325
 
Ranger325, I don't have any new info to add to this thread just thought I'd post a pic if you don't mind. :)
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Ranger325, I don't have any new info to add to this thread just thought I'd post a pic if you don't mind. :)
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Just fumbling around in my gun/knife room and came across an Al Mar that I somehow ended up with during my LEO years........:D From this thread and pokin' around on other sites, it seems that it is definitively a "Sere Attack I" (3001B) series with the black neoprene scales. It looks exactly like the 2nd knife down in your above post. It says "Seki Japan" on the right blade side and has the same exact markings and gold inlays throughout as in your post. No dates/model #'s or any other such markings that I can find.

It is in 90-95% shape throughout, but has been sharpened........unfortunately. But it is what it is and it's as smooth a folder as any I've ever deployed. Nice knives....one I must admit that I forgot totally about. The 3in. blade and folded length of 3 1/2in. should make it a great carry piece.

Nice to read the history of the Al Mar's as I found it quite interesting. Thanks to all those who provided links and their own knowledge about these wonderful knives.

** As I was about to leave my 'puter, I looked at my Al Mar and did notice that the gold inlay's on both sides on my knife do depart just slightly from the ones pictured above. The symbols in the gold inlays on my knife don't take up the entire inlay area. The symbols (whatever they are) only extend approx. 2/3rd's of the way down from the top of the gold inlay, while the bottom 1/3 is just plain, flat......gold inlay. My inlays are also a bit more oblong than square, which is another small departure from the pics. Interesting, but thought maybe someone could shed some light on these small, but curious observations. Also, are these "gold" inlays actually gold perhaps, or more likely made of brass......? **

Thanks in advance..........:)
 
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Hello Magnumb, I am bit of a AL MAR nut.. Please post a pic? The GOLD INLAYS on the grip of the knife i believe are just BRASS inserts.. I actually had one fall out and it appear to be glued in... Most of my AL MAR collection is very early knives which actually have SILVER SODER..

I start a AL MAR site.. Its not completed up yet, but i will be posting a TON OF VINTAGE AL MARS to show off and a few to sell..
www.vintageknifegrails.com..

see ua
 
Here is my early '80s Al Mar SERE Attack with green micarta scales.



There is no Special Forces emblem, and has a 4 3/8 inch blade. The sheath is heavy leather that has a thin camo coating, and our Sargent hated seeing anything in camo, so I blacked with dye so it would blend in with the rest of my SWAT gear. This blade has seen quite a bit of use and some unfortunate, but necessary, abuse. It's a great blade, and will be passed down to my Grand Nephew who wants to be a Police Officer. :)
 
Here's another shot of my Al Mar SERE attack with it's scabbard. The camo pattern seems to have bled through the black dye I used on it. The scale shows the length of the blade, roughly 4 3/4 inch.

 
I was searching trying to identify a Al Mar SERE style knife.
I have one that looks like Wouter1967 above (pictures attached) except....
  • The Special Forces logo is lighter on mine. The one above looks mine if missing the "paint" after engraving.
  • The AL MAR Logo is in a different place
  • Mine does not say SEKI City on the opposite side just the number 587 (maybe a serial number or model number).
  • Blade Length is about 4.5" and OAL = 10.125"

Any idea on the model number, what the 587 means?, and what year it was made. I got this knife from an inheritance.

-Paul (aka pcb105)
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To resurrect Paul's post from 11(!) years ago, I have just acquired a SERE/Attack 3003a stamped with a number - rather than a maker origination mark.

Mine, however, does not bear the Special Forces logo. One side of the blade has the AL MAR name and red chop. The other side of the blade is simply stamped "410."

Other than Paul's SERE number "587," I've only been able to find a photograph of exactly one other SERE marked with a number: "154."

I appreciate Nostimos' speculation that the "numbered" SEREs may have been pre-production models, but from what I've read, Al usually ordered 200 pre-production units to send out to dealers for evaluation before committing to a full production run. It seems to me that 587 would be a rather high number of pre-production samples for a small manufacturer just starting out. Especially if the Special Forces logo models were considered a separate model run from the non-logo one's.

I'm thinking (and this is pure guess work) that, perhaps, the early SEREs may have been given sequential serial numbers..?

Can anyone shed light on the early numbered SEREs?

Edit: Found another one. SERE #502 is on ebay right now. Seller (who has a LOT of Al Mar's listed) says he believes there were 600 early SERE 3003's with serial numbers... Just found photo's of #009, an early one with black rubber scales, on another site.

So, there are 5 that I've been able to verify:

009
154
410
502
587

Thanks,
James
 
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