All this talk of guns....

wildmanh

wildmanh

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All this talking about guns has me thinking that it's about time I get one of my own. Sure my mom has some with my name on them, but they are somewhere in storage down in Spring City. Got to get me either a Pistol, Rifle or Shot gun some time this summer then go out and use it as much as possible.

Wednesday after work I went to the new Cabella's and found a few guns I'd love to have. They have some nice new guns but what really caught my attention were the used guns; Got my eye on a Winchester Model 12 (12g Pump), Browning A-5 (Auto 12g), Colt Cowboy in .22 and that Highly collectable Winchester 1876 in .50. That gun is Awesome!!! Thought the $14,300 price tag wasn't.

For new guns I'm looking at a Ruger Single 6 in .22, SpringField XD 4" 9mm and a Springfield .45. Would probably get the XD first, then the Single 6 and last would be the .45ACP. I haven't shot anything in years and want to start out small then work my way up. What do you guys think?

Thanks,

Heber
 
First Bruise, now Heber. I just hope you guys (you know who you are) are proud of yourselves, turning good, peace loving, khukri nuts into wild eyed pistoleros. Won't be long, they'll both be prowling the gun shows looking for inexpensive ChiCom assault rifles and drum magazines (no Bruise, those aren't printed periodicals about drummers). :rolleyes: ;)

Sarge
 
Those Browning Autoloading shotguns are really nice and last forever.
If you can afford one, Id get one of those.
I always thought a Browning Auto in 16 gauge with an extended cylinder would be the ideal combat shotgun.
 
You can't go wrong with an Auto Ordinance Thompson (Tommygun/Chicago Typewriter). Of course, I still haven't gotten mine, but I'm working on it.
 
Wildmanh,
If you haven't done much pistol shooting lately, try a .45ACP before you buy a 9MM. Many people, my wife included, find the slide speed of the 9 harder to deal with than the foot pounds of recoil from the .45. In short they find a .45ACP easer to shoot acurately than the 9MM.

If you like the Winchester Mod. 76 take a look at the 2 or 3 Italian made repos. They are as well made as the origionals and made out of much better materials, in the same calibers: 40-60, 45-60, 45-75 and 50-90. For a lot LESS money.

IF you really like the A5, look to see if there are any Remington M-11's. It's the same gun without the nice hand work of the FN made guns, but cost much less.
Dan
 
If you have not shot a handgun in a while you would do well to get a 22LR first, then get a larger chambering.

You will basically be learning with a handgun all over again. The 22 will make this easier.
 
Yep, belted men . Kukuuri on one hip , 454 casull on the other . A bandolier of ammo across each shoulder . All the while running down the gun show aisles yelling " Badges ? We don,t need no stinking badges ! "
 
Wild manh, sounds like you have a plan. Merely a suggestion regarding your choice of handguns....the 9mm and 45ACP sound great, but you may shoot the 22 more. Consider a Ruger 22LR with the polymer frame (really close to the frame on the 45)....that way most all your shooting would be with nearly identically feeling grips. The ole' brain will find a groove....a teriffic advantage. I'm sure you remember the old saying "Beware the man with only one gun....He probably knows how to use it" that applies to one style or angle of grip too.
 
Enough marksmen lobbied Ruger to make that grip frame in the gun.
Kind of a happy success story. I've met lots of shooters who own the Ruger and a 1911.




munk
 
Heber, I'll be no fun and tell you to get the Single Six and practice, practice, practice.

Us-all bein' adults, I'll tell you what you SHOULD do- borrow a .45 with hollowpoints and shoot a 2-liter soda bottle filled with water at 20 ft.

After you towel off, go buy that XD.


Mike
 
I'll second jurassicnarc on the Ruger 22/45 suggestion. If you are considering a 1911 in .45, one of the best things you can do is get a 22/45 for practice. I bought a Colt 1911 a few months ago, then two weeks later bought a Ruger because I found a really good deal. Practicing with that Ruger (the ammo for which costs pennies on the dollar compared to the Colt) has helped improve my groups with the Colt immensly. I've always been a decent shot, but now putting a big hole in the middle of the target is the norm rather than the exception, and the main reason is because now I can practice as much as I'd like with the .22. I've found that .22 also tends to be much more popular with beginners because they can usually shoot tighter groups with them than centerfires, which is much more satisfying than just spraying lead.
 
I was shooting my .30 carbine Ruger Blackhawk yesterday. I laid away a .45 Colt Blackhawk (used) with the 7 1/2" barrel just like the Blackhawk on Friday.

I'd get a .22 for a first pistol though and you can't go wrong with Ruger.

To thread drift a bit anybody know the cheapest source for .45 LC ammo? It appears to be around 20 bucks for a box of 50. I can get the Wolf M1 Carbine ammo for 150 for 1000, so I'll probably be shooting that a lot more. That's about as cheap as it can be reloaded although the Wolf is non reloadable. I do have dies and about a zillion cases for the M1 since I've had a carbine since I was a teenager.:thumbup:
 
munk said:
Enough marksmen lobbied Ruger to make that grip frame in the gun.
Kind of a happy success story. I've met lots of shooters who own the Ruger and a 1911.




munk
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Those shooters are the smart ones.. :cool: :cool: :cool:
 
Great starter gun. Rugers will last three lifetimes.
If you ever get a chance, get that Model 12. Discontinued, but I hear that Browning makes them under license in Japan.
 
22/45: :thumbup:

XD's (don't own any, have shot some): :thumbup:

Get the rimfire first. You'll be able to do all the shooting you want while saving money for the larger purchases and the time will pass more easily.
 
I may be the only person in the U.S. who didn't like his .22 Single Six, with the spare mag. cylinder. But I truly loathed that revolver.

Have fun with whatever you get. Shoot the bejaysus out of it. See if you can start with good habits, it becomes much easier than correcting bad ones later on. Be nice if you had a knowledgeable friend to start learning with. Things are remarkable if you have someone to whom to remark.

Wear ear protection, even little foam plugs, if you would, please. Yes, even outside.

Thank you.
 
Another nomination for the Single six of the ones you mentioned.

My wife added up my shooting expenses for last summer, and they fell short of just 3K. That was shooting primarily my Remington 541 and my Savage 311 sXs. It would have been ALOT worse for a centerfire, even if I were reloading. I went through a centerfire pistol phase for a while myself until I realized I was spending more time reloading, coveting new gadgets, and memorizing Guns and Ammo than I was spending out enjoying the hobby I love.

If you got the cash though...you could also consider a decent 1911 with one of the higher quality .22 slide conversions, by Kimber,Wilson, Ceiner (the really old ones)
 
Runs with Scissors;

I don't understand; what cost three thousand dollars? Not .22 ammo, surely.
If you shot up 3000 dollars worth of 22's last summer MY HAT is not only off to you, but I'll give you a free pass to the Munk Compound.




munk
 
If all one shoots is Eley and Wolf, I could see burning $3k. It wouldn't be easy for a casual shooter, but it could be done.

Some rough math, since it got me thinking:

~$10 per 550 rounds for the budget stuff that I use = 300 bricks, give or take, or 165,000 rounds. Figure on, what, one brick every hour or so if you're handy at loading mags and have a lot to shoot at. (God knows that I've burned up two or three bricks in an afternoon before, and that's with some centerfires in attendance as well.)

I couldn't do it on my present schedule but now that I think about it, it could be done. Interesting.

If you don't mind me asking, RWS, about how many rounds went through each firearm? There's a lot of confusion and disagreement in the rimfire community about just how much ammunition it takes to wear out a given rimfire barrel and I suspect that you may be able to shed a little light on it.
 
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