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Alpha vs Kalinga Folders

Take a look S30V vs. 420. Sorry i am not that good with the camera yet.
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Thanks for those pics, heng em, you just sold at least 3 more knives for Buck. ;)
 
Yes thank you Hang em!
Better make that 5 more knives total :D
I think I definately need to get one of each of the S30V Kalinga knives!!!
July is going to come very slooowwwyyy :D
 
S30V, CPM154, BG42,,,,just something that will stay sharper a little longer than 420.

I want a rubber handeled user in one of the above. So one of the above steels will be fine in the 415.

NOW,,,, I just paid attention to that little curve in the blade just in front of the choil.

Is that going to sharpen ok on my clamp lansky system?

Has, or does Buck test off the shelf sharpening systems on these new blades? I think I know the answer to that...

I guess I am looking for "user friendly" here.
 
No sorry that alpha was a proto, and i agree.
The 1337 diamond pocket sharpener workes great on the kalinga, I dont know about the lansky system
 
A 415 in S30V would be a great user especially if the price was reasonable (like the premium steel Dorado's which retail for about $5-$10 more than 420HC).

For handles I'd prefer micarta or glass reinforced synthetic instead of rubber. I'd also like to see what the wood scales look like on a 415 (would it look ok with the black synthetic bolster?).
 
Messersmith said:
A 415 in S30V would be a great user especially if the price was reasonable (like the premium steel Dorado's which retail for about $5-$10 more than 420HC).

For handles I'd prefer micarta or glass reinforced synthetic instead of rubber. I'd also like to see what the wood scales look like on a 415 (would it look ok with the black synthetic bolster?).
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The black bolster and the checkered handle are actually all one piece. The rubber handle has a glass reinforced nylon core, so they're actually pretty tough. They're made the same way that the Alpha rubber grips are made, but they feel a lot grippier.

Earlier in this thread someone asked why there was such a weight difference between teh 419 and the 415. The reason is that the 419 uses solid sintered brass for the handle and the wood adds weigth as well. We added as many lightening holes as we could underneath the wood, so it still weighs less than an Alpha, but not much. The 415, on the other hand, is remarkably light despite its size - the steel handle sides are .080" thick and they have nice big lightening holes under the rubber handle. The Alpha handle sides are.100" thick and the lightening holes are smaller. Anyhow, I hope that helps a little. - Jim
 
jimmer_5 said:
The black bolster and the checkered handle are actually all one piece. The rubber handle has a glass reinforced nylon core, so they're actually pretty tough. They're made the same way that the Alpha rubber grips are made, but they feel a lot grippier.

Earlier in this thread someone asked why there was such a weight difference between teh 419 and the 415. The reason is that the 419 uses solid sintered brass for the handle and the wood adds weigth as well. We added as many lightening holes as we could underneath the wood, so it still weighs less than an Alpha, but not much. The 415, on the other hand, is remarkably light despite its size - the steel handle sides are .080" thick and they have nice big lightening holes under the rubber handle. The Alpha handle sides are.100" thick and the lightening holes are smaller. Anyhow, I hope that helps a little. - Jim
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Thanks for that insite on the folders Jim.

Looks like I want a 415 with rubbers and CPM154, or BG42, or, S30V, or,,,,,420HC :D :D
 
hay jimmer,
did you see about the 110 with alpha scales that is being passed around?
so far every one likes it !!!
maby want to try it ...
 
I did see that knife - it's an interesting concept. We've put a lot of materials on 110 handles, but I haven't seen that yet - I don't know if it has been done before, and the 110 is kind of a 'sacred cow' at Buck, so I'm not sure if we'll see anything like that in the future....
 
Pack Rat said:
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NOW,,,, I just paid attention to that little curve in the blade just in front of the choil.

Is that going to sharpen ok on my clamp lansky system?
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Great observation Larry. I hope some Buckaroo replies to your post.
 
jimmer_5 said:
I did see that knife - it's an interesting concept. We've put a lot of materials on 110 handles, but I haven't seen that yet - I don't know if it has been done before, and the 110 is kind of a 'sacred cow' at Buck, so I'm not sure if we'll see anything like that in the future....
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well send your street addy to be the next to get it for a looksee...
a334dave at yahoo dot com
sacred cow!!!! here i thought it was a knife...
hee hee i know what you mean...
yea send addy to try it out or show it around..
 
jimmer_5 said:
I did see that knife - it's an interesting concept. We've put a lot of materials on 110 handles, but I haven't seen that yet - I don't know if it has been done before, and the 110 is kind of a 'sacred cow' at Buck, so I'm not sure if we'll see anything like that in the future....
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I hope this doesn't aggrivate anyone, BUT, this sacred cow nonsense needs to be re evaluated.

The 110 has been put on "God" status and, in my mind, as a result it has not evolved as it should have. Instead we have seen a whole rath of assorted blades and configurations of other knives.

I have stuck in a lot of posts about the various knives I use for my hunting, mostly because they make the processes a little easier.

But bottom line, EVERYTHING I do with the other knives, could be done with my 110.

So, what am I really getting at!...

The 110 NEEDS to be produced with more configurations. Simple as that.

I am tired of polishing scratched brass, so give me stainless.

Dave has the right idea, so give me rubber grips!

I want a production (meaning non custom shop, or Cabellas, or Bass Pro, or whoever) blade in one of the better premimum steels. When I finger a new blade, the D2 and BG42 seem the sharpest. But not a lot different than the S30V and 154. Naturally in the regular clip configuration.

Make finger grips!!

Get the blades back out to 3 7/8 inches like on my 3rd version instead of this 3 5/8 inch nonsense on the Cabellas and BP.

And I still would like to see a sharpening system specifically designed to Bucks "edge"

So...sorry for the rant.... But I think the 110 NEEDS to evolve more as a production user.

Now,,,where are my morning meds... :o ...:o
 
Don't be afraid to hold back Larry :D

I do agree though! How about a drop point version right away?
I really would like the upgraded steel available in a standard model...:D
 
wh4f said:
Don't be afraid to hold back Larry :D

I do agree though! How about a drop point version right away?
I really would like the upgraded steel available in a standard model...:D
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lol....I get a new set of "tact" every year on Jan 1st. Back in my working days, it would last till at least Jan 10. :D :D

You DP guys......What is it going to take to convince ya....lol.... same thing it would take to convince us clip guys I guess....:rolleyes: :D

Nah,,,,I just think Buck is missing the boat on building a "new improved" 110 Folding Hunter and marketing it accordingly.
 
i gots half a buck worth
nothing wrong with the ClassiC 110
nothing wrong with change either
i belive what has happened is that the clasic insted of reuseing the number
and stoping the clasic that they have gone on with new mods such as the alphia and the 442 and other knives ...
most of us buck nuts seem to want some vearity in our 110 but still have a 110... what happen with the 111
not enubht sold to bring down cost ... that it is called a 111 dont fool me none !!!! i knows it is a fancy 110
same as the 560... metal framed 110 the buck lite plastic 110
so whats ifn some one at buck wants the numbers to stay odd
what was wrong wit a Ti 110
or a valum 110 rather then a 426?
and how about as D110 for the drop point folks!!!!
a 110 LL not that was not a lock back but is a most sought after 110
heck it should been a 113 maby ... would it be as desired if it was a #113?


hot darn tarnation dees is ALL folding hunters ta me !!!!
after all the #110 was a SKINER FIXED BLADE ta start witz...

so tell i gets a 2ed pot o REAL coffie going
what the heck is in a number???? its all folding hunter ta me ...
or have i lost the meaning some ware of what i wanted to say ...
do it mean sence to any but me ?
man i hate to dis early but were is that jar karen?

oh and good morning everyone!
 
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