Always Wanted An AK Bowie

What Steely said also made sense. Shovel, unbreakable friend, digger, chopper, and carryable. It has to carry easier than a 18" khuk.


Would anyone be up for HI Lawn darts at a Konvention in the future? Could we soften the lawn enough to avoid major damage? (and could we keep pedestrians out of the range?)

I have always wanted an AK Bowie. Carter and I used to stare at them in awe. Rusty liked them. I know Yvsa and Nasty don't care for them all that much any more. You guys know I'm not a tough guy or a knife fighter. Yet when I got my Rose, I saw what many of you martial types probably knew long ago- it had a certain easy balance. The AK Bowie feels like a brick by comparison.

But I can't help but love it. Thanks again to Danny for the body movement advice, though I don't intend to gut any Deliverance Types any time soon.

munk
 
Speed difference between lighter and heavier weapons would be marginal for a strong (or technical) person if - however it's a big "if" - a person doesn't use wrist muscles. It's using fine muscles what makes lighter weapons fast. Western fencing takes this philosophy to extreme, almost all of it is about using wrist. Try doing that with King Arthur sword :)

Anyway, back to the question at hand. I found AK to be an almost perfect biking body, and it's the weight that made me say "almost". Jack of all trades it is, and that's what I'd want of it. It's not a perfect prybar, and even less perfect hammer, but can be used as both. Not a perfect fighting knife, but honestly I'd rather have a razor sharp AK than a designated man-on-man fighter for a wildlife situation. Short by HI standards, straight, fits well on bike frame, doesn't draw much attention due to full length self-made cardboard sheath with just a little piece of rope sticking out... All substance, no show.
 
...well, there is some show- all psychotic! Can't you see the crazed man with the AK Bowie and a whetstone.....yikes!

Wildlife- yeah. Stick an AK Bowie in a Bear and even a Grizzly aint breaking that in half.


munk
 
I'm up for lawn darts. I loved that game, can't find it anywhere now. Damn PC saftey patrol losers got to take the fun out of everything. Lawn darts with AK bowies sounds like a great time. I have to get one of these things soon. I am looking for a bowie that is less fighter and more worker. Everyone wants a fighter, I am not going to be in a knife fight most likely. I'll take a chopper.
 
Sounds like the AK Bowie is growing on you, munk.

Could be a new thread- "What do you do with the AKB?"

1. Psychotic Lawn Darts

2. Extreme Fish Cleaning

3. Cycle Buddy

4. Anger Management® Thrower

5. AKB Iron Chef vs. Some Tough Chewy Meat N' Bone


Ad Astra
 
If this were all there was, though, why did the Samurai not have huge, heavy European long swords?
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That's what I am trying to tell you, Munk.
They did.
They had some polearms that were bigger, some of the largest fighting tools known to mankind.
 
Well, Danny, I appreciate your insight and training. I still think there are uses and advantages for a Rose over a AK in fighting. If I'm not the right man to support this view due to (lack of knowledge) so be it!

My blackbelt friend grabs knives backhanded. He defends with them and can counter strike. Actually, he's the one I can't give a khuk to. He spent a lot of years training with blades, and what his mind's eye see's now is unacceptable to him. He will not own blades. He has a 1.5" pocketknife, and that's it. He doesn't even like my Cleaver hanging on my kitchen wall.

But anyway, in his hands, or yours, I imagine the AK Bowie could be devasting.

I like the AK Bowie. I'm for hearing it has uses. I started this thread because the weight was daunting. Ker plunk- the AK just landed in your hand!


munk
 
I like mine mostly because the damn thing just looks cool.
(I have an AK bowie and a rose, so I dont have to worry which one is better for fighting of banditos)
Daniel Koster made me a little brother skinner that matches the AK Bowie and a combination sheath that makes it all seem like it always belonged together.
(You might remember that project)

So your martial artist friend doesnt like knives?
Or, he doesnt like big ones?
ITs not important, im just curious.
 
Next year's MWKK will only be open to those prepared to play a round or two of HI Bowie Lawn Darts.

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Hey have a look at this thing. It is a Nyuibo. (Large battle club)
Keep in mind I am 6'2" and well over two hundred pounds. The guys that would have used this weapon 400 years ago would have been around 4'9" tall and 90 pounds or so.
This club is about 5'5" long and weighs about thirty pounds.
The ONLY way to move this thing in battle is with your body in motion, not with the muscles in your arms.
 
Danny, my friend knows what damage a knife will do, and so will not own one. I'm not even sure where he keeps his kitchen knives- probably locked up. It's just him.

He and I look at the same HI blades and he see's mayhem, and I see wood chopping friend.


Nasty, I don't even know how to play lawn darts, but kinda guessing you're supposed to come the closest to some kind of target or line. Now, gentlemen, am I right that a HI AK Bowie is going to land blade down almost every time?


munk
 
munk said:
Nasty, I don't even know how to play lawn darts, but kinda guessing you're supposed to come the closest to some kind of target or line. Now, gentlemen, am I right that a HI AK Bowie is going to land blade down almost every time?
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Shucks...you want to use *stationary* targets?

munk...I am *that* close to taking it outside right now to see how it usually lands...

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If you lob it, and don't spin end over end; how in heck could it land on anything but its blade? It'll drop like a bomb.

Would rabbits be OK for moving targets? We've got gophers here that would be nice...They never look overhead!
Talk about the Hand of Eternity coming down on top of them....



munk
 
I always thought of the difference between the Rose and the AKB as this: the Rose is a weapon that can be used as a tool and the AKB is a tool that can be used as a weapon.

I made a post some time back comparing the AKB to the Smatchet of WWII fame. Fairbairn had some thoughts about how such a weapon should be used; of course, his lesson plan was probably pared down quite a bit in its depicted form for wartime purposes. He seemed to favor high chops to the arms and neck, thrusts to the midsection and blows with the pommel to the chin - upwards, as well as downwards. I don't think that he was picturing a knife duel when he came up with this but I certainly wouldn't want any of these techniques performed on me.
 
I always thought of the difference between the Rose and the AKB as this: the Rose is a weapon that can be used as a tool and the AKB is a tool that can be used as a weapon.>>>>>>

That is as good a one liner as I've heard recently.


munk
 
Satori said:
I don't think that he was picturing a knife duel when he came up with this...
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true words... my understanding is that being tactical only gets you so far with a knife. Whenever I read how someone glorifies a knife for being a "fighter", my first immediate reaction is to ask whether or not that person has ever been in a knife fight. Most likely the answer would be a "no". If the answer is a "yes", I'd continue by asking wether or not this was a knife duel situation, and expect a "no" then. It's highly unlikely that either one of us will ever get in a situation where he's one of two mean guys standing across a ring, each one holding a knife and waiting for the other guy to make a mistake.

The point here is simple. Messy situations have tendency to arise when you expect them the least and aren't necessarily well prepared. A non-specialized fighter that you have handy is much better than a specialized fighter that was left at home because it's plain silly to run around with more than one knife to do your chores, spare the explanation with authorities factor. Versatility is what makes knife a strategical weapon; I believe that's why khuks became a tool/weapon of choice of ghurkas -- for their versatility.

So, here is my set of knives. It's 16.5" AK for hiking, AKB for biking (have to go with a straight blade to fit well on bike frame), and legal-to-carry-concealed Benchmade clipknife as a part of everyday attire. The last one I hope to never have to use for anything other than cutting cigars.

I own a Rose, and truly love it. It's the sharpest one of my knives, slicing paper with it makes goosebumps run down my spine; however this knife will probably never see daylight - unless I want to impress someone who can be impressed with a beautiful quality fighting knife, that is.
 
Isn't a weapon nothing more than I tool optimized for destruction and wielded with that thought in mind?

You outta see me with a sledge or a super bar!
 
samoand said:
I own a Rose, and truly love it. It's the sharpest one of my knives, slicing paper with it makes goosebumps run down my spine; however this knife will probably never see daylight - unless I want to impress someone who can be impressed with a beautiful quality fighting knife, that is.
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That seems to be the problem with my Rose as well...it's tough to find work for a knife like that.

No different than a sword, I suppose. There are always the recyclables to consider.
 
Like most other here, i think there is plenty of room for both the Rose and the AKB for both work and SD. I've used the AK bowie to fell small trees up to 4" in diameter without much trouble. I also slept with it beside my bed as well as packed for SHTF duty in my motorcycle saddlebag. Likewise, the Rose is the sweeping romantic blade that steals your heart and captures your imagination. You certainly could stepped sure-footed out onto the sandbar with a strapped to your hip. However, the rose will handle just about anything you throw at it. I've chopped through 6" logs with mine with NO problem. As a matter of fact my best man and I are putting together a little canoe trip/hike/camping trip this early fall to celebrate our friendship as well as our weddings (mine in Oct. his in Nov). I will be strapping the Rose to my pack. Do I have more fitting or useful knives for such a trip? Oh yeah. Heck, a JKM is really all i need. However, we will be porting the canoe from time to time where light to medium chopping might come into play. Firewood will also need to be split. We will be in cougar country as well. Not that a knife any kind would be my first choice for a big cat, but the Rose makes me feel safe. Besides, we see guys take Chiruwas, GRS', and WWIIs out into the wilds all of the time. They are proven "survival" blades. I want to put a Rose through the paces. There is something about two old friends sharing a special time together, talking about the old days and sharing a knife that was designed to be the stuff of legends. The Rose will slow us down, but we aren't going to be in any hurry. As a matter of fact, maybe i'll have to pick fitting khuk out of my collection for my friend to have.
Two old friends bound by nearly 20 years of history. Lots of laughs, some big knives, and the understanding that we will never cross paths like this again. That the moment we share is going to be truly once in a lifetime as careers, family, etc take primary focus. The Rose embodies this. The AKB is all business. The Rose has more class and style.
Man, where the the awesome Seax fit into all of this? Jeeze, the pratical bombproof part of me loves the AKB. The romantic in me loves the Rose. My celtic genes are drawn to the seax. tough call.

Jake
 
Offer your buddy the Rose or the Seax. You take the other one. Sounds like a great trip, wish I had done something like that a couple years ago.
 
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