Am I crazy? I'm thinking of buying a Hummer.

JMO but you couldn't give me a Hummer. Overpriced, and ugly..
Great rig for yuppies. Makes their friends think they are the adventurous, off road types I guess. Even though probably 99.8% of them never even see a gravel driveway..
If I was gonna spend that kind of coin on an S.U.V, I'd get something that looks nice and is comfortable.
But I will probably just keep my 2002 Dodge 2500 X-cab 4x4 with the Cummins.
It will go places that I probably shouldn't be going and hopefully it will run another 200,000 mile( it just turned 100,000).......
 
I was driving through one of the worst snowstorms we've had this year, the Friday before Christmas week. It took me three hours to make a one-hour-and-fifteen-minute trip, and that was with four-wheel-drive and a suspension kit working for me...

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...and yet, one guy flew past me going about twenty miles per hour faster than I was going.

He was driving an H2.
 
mark127 said:
I had a 95 Toyota X-cab 4x4, paid for, tough as nails, traded it for a Dodge Dakota 4x4 Quad Cab; I am a stupid man.... Oh my Toyota, please come home
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What don't you like about the Dakota? That was one of the alternatives I have seriously considered--4 door, 4WD Dakota.
 
If you're going to get a Hummer, you might as well get the original H1. In the realm of these kinds of trucks, go big or go home, friend. :D
 
My current ride is a 2005 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD Regular Cab---4x4, 6.6L Duramax, Allison transmission, every offroad-based package you can imagine. Long bed, diamond-plate toolboxes. It's an obvious work truck, which is for the family business. It's a nice ride for any weather, for sure.

I'd highly recommend the Silverado series (and their GMC counterparts), and also the F250 from Ford, in the realm of hard-use trucks.
 
steelscout30 said:
My current ride is a 2005 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD Regular Cab---4x4, 6.6L Duramax, Allison transmission, every offroad-based package you can imagine. Long bed, diamond-plate toolboxes. It's an obvious work truck, which is for the family business. It's a nice ride for any weather, for sure.

I'd highly recommend the Silverado series (and their GMC counterparts), and also the F250 from Ford, in the realm of hard-use trucks.
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As long as you don’t lift them, the ones we had at work came with 285s and a mild lift. The stress breaks the adapter between the transmission and the transfer case. 16 trucks in the shop twice a year to get this fixed at 1300 a pop. Chevy has a 30 page technical bulletin out on this. Will say the trucks had 0 transmission problems, two engines with bad injectors at 100k + due to idiots putting gas in them. Zero transmission and rear-end problems. Now if you can keep a front end under one that would be nice, not having to relocate the batteries to the bed because the front fenders were cracking would be nice. Not having to have an extra strap to hold the hood down when the latch breaks would be nice, this is after replacing the factory soft latch with a factory hardened latch, which still broke. Not having the fenders crack around the hood hinges would be nice. I will say these trucks probably spend 50% of there life on washboard road to unimproved two tacks so they take a beating, but they have the worst track record out of the three.
 
h2 and h3 hummers are awfull..
get a Volvo Laplander, i like them better then Unimogs and pinzgauers
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Horned Toad said:
As long as you don’t lift them, the ones we had at work came with 285s and a mild lift. The stress breaks the adapter between the transmission and the transfer case. 16 trucks in the shop twice a year to get this fixed at 1300 a pop. Chevy has a 30 page technical bulletin out on this. Will say the trucks had 0 transmission problems, two engines with bad injectors at 100k + due to idiots putting gas in them. Zero transmission and rear-end problems. Now if you can keep a front end under one that would be nice, not having to relocate the batteries to the bed because the front fenders were cracking would be nice. Not having to have an extra strap to hold the hood down when the latch breaks would be nice, this is after replacing the factory soft latch with a factory hardened latch, which still broke. Not having the fenders crack around the hood hinges would be nice. I will say these trucks probably spend 50% of there life on washboard road to unimproved two tacks so they take a beating, but they have the worst track record out of the three.
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Very useful information...thanks. :thumbup:
 
I dont think you are crazy at all. I own a 2006 H3 and Love it! Great vehicles IMO! Next will be an H3 Alpha. :D
 
Thanks for that theedge13, I think you are literally the first positive post. Honestly I still think that it might work out for me. I am probably not as demanding as most buyers. I don't care that much about acceleration and would not beat it up off-road.

It sounds like the tie rods are a weak link, but probably could be addressed by the aftermarket if necessary. From reading reviews & such it does sound like the Colorado/Canyon/H3 reliability is somewhat subpar--I read one post by a guy who had engine problems on an amost new Canyon and was not a happy camper.

I will probably test drive an H3T but only buy one if I can get a killer deal. Right now I'm leaning towards the Dodge Dakota 4WD crew cab.

Thanks again for your reply.
 
You should be asking owners and not random people if you want a meaningful sample. Test drive for yourself and see what you think.

My concerns were not with the product as much as the future of the brand. You also have to deal with people who are negative on Hummers based on their preconceptions.

I have driven the H1, H2, and several H3s, as well as the new generation 4-door Jeep and the LR3. They each have strengths and weaknesses.
 
Yeah, you're right. I discount the HDS (hummer derangement syndrome)-derived comments. BTW, thanks for that hummerxclub link--I looked at that and saw lots of info there. I probably will post a query there.

It's funny that HDS might be the one thing that keeps the H3T in the running for me, as I try to figure out what to buy...
 
555 said:
What I have noticed is, since they have added Ethanol to the Gasoline our gas mileage has gone down.
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A "dirty secret" is that Ethanol has less energy per unit volume; therefore, MPG goes down for the privelege of higher cost.

They should put "btu" numbers on gas pumps as that is what we are buying.
 
Charles, as much as the owners have worth while opinions, I'd more highly recommend mechanics. smart ones can see which parts/ design features will cause problems down the road, and can tell you what they typically see as far as actual breakdown/ problems From what I saw working on chevy canyons, and the one H3 my shop ever saw, they are under-built for the body size, and the design underneath the H3 and others (the dodge Nitro springs to mind) meant that one had to be very dedicated to doing a good job to do things right. something the owners would probably never know. sad fact is that most owners never read the manual, nevermind pay actual attention to the car. maybe I'm tooting my own horn, but I think that I have a better idea of most vehicles from working on them, than the owners did from driving them
 
gadgetgeek said:
Charles, as much as the owners have worth while opinions, I'd more highly recommend mechanics. smart ones can see which parts/ design features will cause problems down the road, and can tell you what they typically see as far as actual breakdown/ problems From what I saw working on chevy canyons, and the one H3 my shop ever saw, they are under-built for the body size, and the design underneath the H3 and others (the dodge Nitro springs to mind) meant that one had to be very dedicated to doing a good job to do things right. something the owners would probably never know. sad fact is that most owners never read the manual, nevermind pay actual attention to the car. maybe I'm tooting my own horn, but I think that I have a better idea of most vehicles from working on them, than the owners did from driving them
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My comment was meant to contrast input from owners to input from people at large, not mechanics. I do agree that a good mechanic's opinion is valuable so long as it is based on meaningful experience with the vehicle.

I had over 100,000 miles on the last two vehicles I bought new, and expect to do the same on my current one, and that lets me see what typically fails and what does not. Obviously someone who has had their vehicle a short period will not have the same information. The link I posted to the Hummer X Club is off-road guys who are pretty mechanically savvy and will be candid about what breaks. There are also Hummer service guys that post there.

Of course, each owner has a different experience and no one can tell you the whole story. A mechanic who has seen a lot of Hummers would have a good view on the models where an owner may see only his.
 
Well put, I see we are seeing things from the same point, you sir are in a minority among vehicle owners, I assume you also take time with any vehicle you own to familiarize yourself with it, something I find all too rare these days (and I'm what most would call a young pup!)
 
What can I say, my wife won't let me trade any more often.:D

I try to do my research before buying. It is frustrating to have a salesman who does not know the vehicles or who tries to talk you out of what you want. "You do not want the Rubicon, you want the Jeep we have on the lot..." When you are looking at 8-10 years or more with a vehicle you look pretty long and hard at the decision.
 
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