Am I lucky or WHAT?

Don Rearic

Don Rearic

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How on Earth did I ever get this lucky?

I have all of these Emerson Production Knives, and I don't have problems. Man, if that carried over into every other aspect of Life, I would be one happy camper.

I read about all of these stripped out screws, and how this is such an issue. I have one Emerson Folder that has one stripped out screw for the pocket clip.

I keep reading about blades rubbing liners...I have one Emerson Folder that has this problem.

Ironically, both problems exist on the same knife. The Emerson Commander Trainer I have.

I'm reluctant to send it back as it has taught me so much about folding knives in Self-defense and has taught me much about myself in that Role as well...being able to defend myself and teach others to do so as well. It has a sentimental value and it cannot be replaced for that reason...

It is also a 1998 Commander Trainer, beefy, cannot be replaced if lost or stolen.

This is the knife I took with me to Atlanta last year to introduce "Don's Speedrock" to friends...lots of sentimental value.

Yet, it suffered these two problems two years into its' life with me. It never had those problems when it arrived. I took the clip off several times to adjust it...I used the knife on handheld focus mitts and an 85 Lb. Everlast Heavy Bag, slashing and thrusting...it never came that way...

I think it is one hell of a piece of solid Craftsmanship. And a valuable training tool, with alot of sentimental value. Have I said that enough?

I have been a critic on some things. I think EKI should take all of the Commanders back to the "1998 Version" with thicker liners and scales.

The finish rubbing off on the screws, to me, on a Using Knife, is not even worth bringing up. I'll do it anyway...yeah, maybe a better coating is in order or beadblasting the screws. If for no other reason to stop the incessant whining about it.

See, if I would have kept the Commander Trainer in a damned Zip-Lok Baggy, it would be pristine...damn, when will I ever learn?

Man...

"Who let the dogs out? Ruff Ruff...wholetthedogsout! Ruff Ruff..."

Who decided to open the troll floodgate?

Who let the trolls out? Eek Eek...who let the trolls out?

Man, how did I ever luck out and get all of these excellent knives? Man, my head is spinning...

Why does every Bladeforums Turdologist end up with a stinker to tear apart?

I'm gifted Man, I can't help it. I have a horseshoe stuck in the nether regions of my buttcrack I guess...

Oh yeah...when did Ernie anoint himself King of Anything?

I did not receive a Memo, CC, Fax, Phone Call or E-mail with regard to this, yet...I continue to see some of the Turdologists saying it as if Jesus wrote it and handed it to John The Prophet.

I'm confused...

Derek,

I did not receive notification that Ernie has declared himself King of Anything, when did this happen? Can you confirm or deny the persistent rumor?

Perhaps the very vocal minority of Turdologists have septic backup and it is now exiting the facial region instead of the proper venue for the particular substance they are spewing...

I'm really stunned sometimes, I think some people really do hate Ernie because of what he knows and what he does. The whole Martial Arts scene...I think many find it offensive.

They'll accept a blatantly dull turd from another Manufacturer, or something that they could not take apart for voiding the warranty, and they will do so in silence, but man, let Ernie do something wrong or not quite up to snuff, the opening notes to "Don't Fear The Reaper" start playing in their head and they can't wait to get online to throw some more turds...

Yet, they'll get pissed when I call them "Turdologists..." That's an insult to them but they can rip apart whoever they want. Sad human units.
 
Don, my friend!

Well put and not without a good edge :)
It seems that you're getting more and more philosophic (sp.?) these days. (or you're just showing it more) :)

I think that most people comments on some of the statement concerning Mr. Emerson on EKI's website, they may be bold but hey!, it'd advertisement, it should be bold.

What i cannot fathom is the whining over EKI's products, i can agree that some points are somewhat valid, but then say it like it is and get EKI's attention to the problem, piss'n moaning is just boring.

Constructive critisicm is good, it'll benefit us [knifeusers] all.
It's been noted by several knifemaking companies that the actual return of knives is in NO way in the league of the complaints heard.

I guess i'm preaching to the choir here... :)
Btw, just thermal colored the liners on one of my commanders, bluish/purple, looks great :)
 
MMTMatrix Thermally Anodized the Titanium Handles on one of his Benchmade Model 42 Balisongs and they looked cool.

I was speaking with James Piorek about it yesterday on the phone. I have a few JSP Koppo Sticks, one of them has the Anodizing worn off and I am going to heat it up with a torch and see what I get.

Because it is Thermal Anodizing, I don't think it can wear off and in any event, even if it did, do it again.
 
I have two Commanders, a Commander trainer, a SOFCK and a Raven. All have been great with the exception of the trainer.


I beat the heck out of the trainer. My training partners and I were striking a metal stop plate to activate a timer. Darn knife kept slipping fom my hands. It Has to be the knife's fault; for my skill is Soooo.. advanced :rolleyes: that if the knife were to leave my grasp, it must be due to a factory defect. Since, I'm a flawless practioner, I demand that my knives be flawless. Moreover, since I spent major bucks for the thing, I expect it to complete my ascension to all powerful knife dude. I named it BitchBlade.

I just can't seem to re-blunt the tip because of that darn blunt chisel grind. EKI should go back to the old V blunt; IMHO

-Seth, Wannabe All Powerful Knife Dude & fondler of Bitchblade.
 
Originally posted by Don Rearic
MMTMatrix Thermally Anodized the Titanium Handles on one of his Benchmade Model 42 Balisongs and they looked cool.
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Here's mine:
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Even color it isn't, but i like it :)
 
This must be in response to the "emerson quality" thread in the general forum. I read it yesterday, thought about responding, but decided it was just a waste of time. I knew sooner or later Rearic or Hollister or someone would address the situ much better than I could. :D

Well said Don. I am in the process of receiving 2 Commanders and a Mach-1, and you know what, I CAN HARDLY WAIT!!!! I wouldn't trade ANY of my Emersons for a Benchmade, Spydie, etc.....Don't know about a MT, never handled one, but I don't like aluminun/titanium handles. G-10 is my favorite.

Now, if indeed Ernie determines he has a QC problem, I am willing to go to work for him as an inspector, after all I do have 10+ years of QA experience in the aerospace industry :D.
 
Hey Man,

There are knives from every Manufacturer that I like for some reason or dislike for some reason. I repeat, I have had finicky knives from every Manufacturer.

I have one from EKI. I have two SOCFKs, one is smooth as silk, the other is very tight. But both lock up fine, etc. Now, why go on and bitch and moan because one is tighter than the other and therefore does not open as easily? The opening is every bit as smooth, just not as easy.

There, I feel great, I bitched about it.

I LOVE Pacific Cutlery and Benchmade Balisongs. In my experience, Benchmade has always, ALWAYS, had higher Quality Control on their Balisongs than on their other folders.

But, I could sit here and be completely honest about the BM Sentinel and AFCK I once owned. And in that honesty you would see both knives with screws stripped out from the Factory in multiple places, not just one, and one of them dull right out of the box. Shaving sharp? No way, scraping dead skin...

The BM CQC-7 I had, it had a couple of stripped out screws from the factory as well.

WAY before Emerson ever started the Production Company, I was of the opinion that the CQC-7 was BM's highest quality, non-Balisong Folder.

The BM Stryker I had was perfect, and a perfect bitch to open fast too.

I had a BM AFCK, CQC-7, Sentinel and Stryker, I sold/traded them all in the month following the purchase of my first EKI Commander. The only one I regret letting go was the BM CQC-7.

You see people firing rounds at Ernie/EKI because we modify our Emersons at times and tweak them.

I have news for you, before the Kasper Fighting Folder was popular, there was a guy associated with Bob Kasper/Gung Ho Chaun Organization known as "KnifeHead," I cannot remember his name, maybe his name is still on Kasper's Website...Knifehead was modifying BM AFCKs and Strykers so they opened faster, etc., no one fired on BM for that.

I think it goes back to the Martial Arts thing guys, I think some people find it offensive that Ernie has stated that he knows a bit more about some things than other Makers because he is involved in Blade Arts.
 
WAY before Emerson ever started the Production Company, I was of the opinion that the CQC-7 was BM's highest quality, non-Balisong Folder.

Agreed. I just gave mine to my nephew as a high school graduation present, he joined the Marines.

I think it goes back to the Martial Arts thing guys, I think some people find it offensive that Ernie has stated that he knows a bit more about some things than other Makers because he is involved in Blade Arts.

Agreed, and the fact that EKI makes no bones about it. They aren't afraid to be politically incorrect and advertise that their knives are geared toward self-defense. In today's political climate that takes some cojones.

All I meant was that I wouldn't trade any Emerson for a BM/Spydie of equal stature. I carry a Spydie Native everyday in a neck sheath mainly because the corners are so rounded that it is very comfortable. If an Emerson folder was as smooth and comfortable as the Native, I would carry one.
 
I really don't get it either. I DID post in that thread, and basically said what we've all said at some point: I've had no problems, and if YOU do, tell Ernie, for Christ's sake! He can't fix it if he doesn't know it's broken. I loved the "special QC for military orders" too... :rolleyes:

I love my BM CQC7 - even with all (yes, ALL) the stripped screw heads. It was my first knife, because I had a hard on for the CQC6, but couldn't afford it at the tender age of 24. The BM sated my Emerson fix (at that time), much like the CRKT/Ryan 7 makes waiting for Steve to start taking orders again a teeny bit easier.

I dunno.. it's annoying seeing Ernie get raked over the coals (being a fan of his work - I don't think he's God.) But, I guess someone has to complain about something. I guess if you don't like it, don't buy it - and don't COMPLAIN about it, either. If you think the knife is too expensive, or think the QC of a USER knife (one that's designed, and heaven forbid, MEANT to be taken out and put through the paces) comes down to uneven G10, or fading screw color, buy something you'll be happy with, and stop spreading the merde with a shovel, already.
 
Hello all. I did post to the Emerson thread in the general forum. I told the truth about the knife that I bought, a CQC7 with wave. I love the knife and the design, but to tell you honestly, something is frigging wrong with it, and that is all I am going to say about it. Am I frigging stupid because I do not want to take it apart, and try to fix it? Reading this BS thread surely makes me think so. I have not said a word about the integrity of Ernie Emerson or his knife company. I justed posted a fact about one of his products that I bought. Big D1
 
I'm 2 for 2 on good ones,maybe I should play the lottery.

Btw Don, Paranoid is one of my all time favorite lps. If only it didn't have Planet Caravan it.
 
Don,
I must be one of those lucky SOBs, because with 16? production
folders I haven't had any problems and yes I do play with them.
My SOCFK,which I have carried daily for the last year or so is still going strong despite being "waved" and used and abused everyday.
As far as color coming off the screws? uhhhh as long as the clip stays tight I really don't give r@#s a**:D
 
Hey guys!

I got me an avatar up-loaded :) too bad i don't have a digital camera, this pic has been around before..

Anyway, it'll bring more color to my posts, eh, good or bad?? :)
 
Originally posted by Big D1
Am I frigging stupid because I do not want to take it apart, and try to fix it? Reading this BS thread surely makes me think so. I have not said a word about the integrity of Ernie Emerson or his knife company.

Big D1
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The Thread is not necessarily about you, your thread came on the heels of another one if you would look back a couple/few days in the General Forum.

You see, there are two groups of "Usual Suspects" at Bladeforums. There are the Emerson Owners, and there are the Emerson Bashers.

This thread IS bullshit and it cannot hope to be anything else but that because all of the Emerson Bashing is bullshit.

Do you see where I am coming from?

What pisses me off to no end is that Emerson Bashing is a SPORT in the General Forum...

Meanwhile, back at the junkpile, lots of other Manufacturers get turds returned to them and it is done so quietly. I know the turds exist because I have OWNED THEM. It is just ironic that for all the Emerson Bashing that goes on, I have never owned a TURD from EKI.

Do you see...where I am coming from?

What I think is happening is this, most other Manufacturers do not promote themselves the way Ernie Emerson does. Ernie is an Edged Weapons Instructor under Dan Inosanto. That speaks something to me.

Because he uses that, he gets some heat for it. Maybe not from YOU, but from OTHERS.

It was not necessarily aimed at you, but just another thread with which to bash this man.

And I think if the truth were known and allowances for differences in Company size were taken into consideration, I think the truth would be that BM gets just as many knives in for re-sharpening that are brand new out of the box dull, or crappy in alot of other ways.

It is the nature of the beast.

And trust me, all of these fancy new locks coming out, they're not what they're cracked up to be. I won't own another lock that relies on a spring unless it is from Microtech, period.

The only new lock that has come out that is worth a damn in my opinion is the Spyderco Compression Lock on The Gunting. That is one hell of an awesome lock. It has the makings of something incredible...

It has the ability to bury the Liner Lock and all of the other trickass locks people are coming out with.
 
Originally posted by Lone Hunter
Btw Don, Paranoid is one of my all time favorite lps. If only it didn't have Planet Caravan it.
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Man cannot live on D and E PowerChords alone Dude. :D
 
Originally posted by Don Rearic



And trust me, all of these fancy new locks coming out, they're not what they're cracked up to be. I won't own another lock that relies on a spring unless it is from Microtech, period.

The only new lock that has come out that is worth a damn in my opinion is the Spyderco Compression Lock on The Gunting. That is one hell of an awesome lock. It has the makings of something incredible...

It has the ability to bury the Liner Lock and all of the other trickass locks people are coming out with.
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:( :eek: :eek: :(
Surely you don't mean my beloved axis lock??
What has it ever done to you?????:confused:

Note that I have not said one thing against EKI, or liner locks.
Just wanna know why the hostile feelings against other locks.
 
Well,

This is kind of hairy for me personally because I have a friend in the Industry I do not want to piss off. When I bring my Witness in here, he will tell you that I speak the truth on this issue.

The witness will be "Memnoch," a/k/a Mitch the Emerson Madman.

Mitch always fell for the A.T. Barr nonsense of damaging your folder by spine wacking. I don't want to have to go through that whole explanation again as to why that test is absurd...suffice it to say, I sold or traded Mitch a popular folder that is touted as being stronger than a liner lock by many people on BFC. A rabid following with some.

So, what does Mitch do? He spine wacks it and calls me up bitching the knife failed.

I immediately and completely blow a gasket, I mean I am livid. Because the test is not a duplication of ANYTHING that will occur in Fighting with a knife.

I always maintained that if you MUST test something like this, use the palm of your hand and keep your fingers/palm/thumb pad away from the blade channel and wack it on your palm.

He said he did that too...I said, "Yeah, after you f***** it up on a coffee table..."

So, Don knows everything, right?

Don goes into the bedroom and returns with another exact model of that knife and what does Don do?

Smacks the spine on the palm of his hand...and the blade jumped the lock.

I disassembled the knife, this could not be, something is terribly, terribly wrong here. I cleaned the light sheen of BreakFree CLP out of it...and made sure she was tight, put it back together and it did the same damned thing.

So, I told him I was more pissed at being wrong now, and for staking my life on something not proven as well, send me the knife back.

They are both now sitting in a display case of someone who will never use them. That's where they both belong. The guy is a Collector only.

Since then, I have done the same thing with another Manufacturer's lock that is similar to it. And with the same result.

I don't know if some lubrication is "too slick" for it and it can jump the spring, all I know is, two identical knives from different batches failed a palm wack and one from another manufacturer did as well.

If it is that touchy about what lubricant you put in it, I don't want it.

And I don't go to either venue and squeal about it either.

Mitch, when you read this, no names. Just confirm the story is true.

I don't run around dumping on people and I find all of the claims of superiority somewhat of a joke around BFC. I really do.

I don't trust a lock with any sort of spring in it (and I'm not being technical, a liner lock is really a leaf spring, I trust you folks will understand what I am saying here) unless it is a Plunge(r) Lock from a Reputable Manufacturer like Microtech.

And that is the name of that tune.
 
Don, I am an Emerson owner. I have a 98 Commander that is not for sale, and it was just perfect right out of the box. I have not been on the site that much of late, so I did not know the integrity of the Emerson company was being questioned. Anyhow, I see no reason to stoop as low as the others. My apologies. Big D1 also a waveaholic.
 
Hey Dude,

It's no real big deal. You did not pile on, but that sort of thread brings out the Old Emerson Hating Crew big time. Hahhahaha
 
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